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NVIDIA 4000 Series

One of the hold backs for me, in recent years, if you can afford it, the smart money has been buying the highest end card early on then move it on just as the next generation starts to appear on the horizon.

We've still got a good year before the next series, Maybe more IF rumors are true, Plenty of time to enjoy a 4090 :)
 
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Kinda tempted, I game less than I thought I would. Though I do use it for AI and playing around in unreal engine.
 
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Just saw the prices of 4090s now, hot damn this is nuts

Damn. I should have got one. Used it for a year and sold it for a 4 figure profit like I did the 3080!

Have I missed something. Where are you guys seeing the prices? Retailers or used market?

The prices don’t seem massively different to launch?

Cards like the strix were always in the 2 grand region and the lower end cards 1700ish with the founders at just over 1500.

I bought a suprim x at launch for £1850 and when in stock now isn’t massively more.

I have seen people on eBay selling founders for near 2 grand though.

I think now’s a great time to buy graphics cards in terms of availability (4090 aside). As you’re not fighting miners for stock.

It’s just a shame the lower end ones aren’t great value. Nvidia clearly mis-labelled their cards….
 
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Have I missed something. Where are you guys seeing the prices? Retailers or used market?

The prices don’t seem massively different to launch?

Cards like the strix were always in the 2 grand region and the lower end cards 1700ish with the founders at just over 1500.

I bought a suprim x at launch for £1850 and when in stock now isn’t massively more.

I have seen people on eBay selling founders for near 2 grand though.

I think now’s a great time to buy graphics cards in terms of availability (4090 aside). As you’re not fighting miners for stock.

It’s just a shame the lower end ones aren’t great value. Nvidia clearly mis-labelled their cards….

I am going by what people are saying. Did not confirm pricing.
 
Have I missed something. Where are you guys seeing the prices? Retailers or used market?

The prices don’t seem massively different to launch?

Cards like the strix were always in the 2 grand region and the lower end cards 1700ish with the founders at just over 1500.

I bought a suprim x at launch for £1850 and when in stock now isn’t massively more.

I have seen people on eBay selling founders for near 2 grand though.

I think now’s a great time to buy graphics cards in terms of availability (4090 aside). As you’re not fighting miners for stock.

It’s just a shame the lower end ones aren’t great value. Nvidia clearly mis-labelled their cards….

Asus Strix 4090 OC was sell for £1650 at one point at one retailer & other models at FE MSRP and some lower than the FE MSRP. Prices are silly and have become more silly over time. This generation is just a scalping generation from the retailers and manufacturers this time, not a mining or anything excuse this time, just pure greed. Also on release even the top models were at the 4090 FE MSRP in some cases , example the MSI Suprim X OC was at the FE MSRP and slightly above by £30-£50 by some retailers but some had a few at the FE MSRP. It's all a huge scam this time by the companies not the scalpers this time.
 
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I am going by what people are saying. Did not confirm pricing.
Ah no worries. I was just asking as I haven’t noticed any difference. But the way my post was written may have come across wrong. Sorry

Asus Strix 4090 OC was sell for £1650 at one point at one retailer & other models at FE MSRP and some lower than the FE MSRP. Prices are silly and have become more silly over time. This generation is just a scalping generation from the retailers and manufacturers this time, not a mining or anything excuse this time, just pure greed. Also on release even the top models were at the 4090 FE MSRP in some cases , example the MSI Suprim X OC was at the FE MSRP and slightly above by £30-£50 by some retailers but some had a few at the FE MSRP. It's all a huge scam this time by the companies not the scalpers this time.

I don’t disagree that the prices are inflated. A 4090 should be about £1200 with the lower tier cards scaling down appropriately.

As you say before it was down to low availability, and the fact that retailers knew cards would sell at massively overinflated pricing. But the latest generation cards have had plenty of stock.

It’s a shame as when the rrp was set on the 3000 series I thought it was a sign prices might return to “normal”.

I think the days of high end cards under a thousand pounds will never return. I’d love to be wrong.

Nvidia have no reason to adjust pricing, they’re making bigger money elsewhere and they don’t really have much competition. There are certain features that are exclusive to their cards.

And with rumours of AMD pulling out of the high end card market the future doesn’t look bright.

With regards to strix at £1650 I didn’t realise they were ever that low. Was that at most retailers? Or just the one.

I remember cards like the trio being around £1699 at launch with the suprim in the region of £1800.

I could be mistaken but I never thought you could get strix, aorus masters and suprim’s for FE prices.
 
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Have I missed something. Where are you guys seeing the prices? Retailers or used market?

The prices don’t seem massively different to launch?

Cards like the strix were always in the 2 grand region and the lower end cards 1700ish with the founders at just over 1500.

I bought a suprim x at launch for £1850 and when in stock now isn’t massively more.

I have seen people on eBay selling founders for near 2 grand though.

I think now’s a great time to buy graphics cards in terms of availability (4090 aside). As you’re not fighting miners for stock.

It’s just a shame the lower end ones aren’t great value. Nvidia clearly mis-labelled their cards….
I was going by the £100+ increase and the lack of stock on my particular model, the lower models seem to be priced a lot more than before too. I have a feeling they will go up more closer to christmas. I honestly thought they would be a lot cheaper by now. Nvidia has the stock but I guess china is buying them and using them for AI or something.
 
Ah no worries. I was just asking as I haven’t noticed any difference. But the way my post was written may have come across wrong. Sorry



I don’t disagree that the prices are inflated.

As you say before it was down to low availability but the latest generation cards have had plenty of stock.

It’s a shame as when the rrp was set on the 3000 series I thought it was a sign prices might return to “normal”.

I think the days of high end cards under a thousand pounds will never return. I’d love to be wrong.

With regards to strix at £1650 I didn’t realise they were ever that low. Was that at most retailers? Or just the one.

I remember cards like the trio being around £1699 at launch with the suprim in the region of £1800.

I could be mistaken but I never thought you could get strix, aorus masters and suprim’s for FE prices.

The 4090 Strix oc for £1650 (some on this very forum purchased them for that) and other cards were at one retailer doing the deals they had a lot too of each card and even ran the deal a second time later for the same prices.

The on launch day MSI Suprim X was going at a few places for £1749 and some had very few for even £1729. My work mate got one at £1749.

I have been keeping very close attention to the prices since launch and the ridiculous prices right after to now.. Prices are worse than ever a year into a generation when they should have been coming down, not this mess we have now for no real world reason but greed.
 
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Asus Strix 4090 OC was sell for £1650 at one point at one retailer & other models at FE MSRP and some lower than the FE MSRP. Prices are silly and have become more silly over time. This generation is just a scalping generation from the retailers and manufacturers this time, not a mining or anything excuse this time, just pure greed. Also on release even the top models were at the 4090 FE MSRP in some cases , example the MSI Suprim X OC was at the FE MSRP and slightly above by £30-£50 by some retailers but some had a few at the FE MSRP. It's all a huge scam this time by the companies not the scalpers this time.
If you ignore names and instead look at the pricing by die sizes compared to last gen then we are still paying peak mining prices.
 
If you ignore names and instead look at the pricing by die sizes compared to last gen then we are still paying peak mining prices.
AMD are less culpable of this but they’ve bumped up everything by ONE tier just not 2-3 tiers like Nvidia.

Eg RX 7800 XT has the same compute units (60) as a RX 6800 non-XT etc but bumped up to XT price tiers.
 
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I have a LGA 1200 Socket Motherboard with an 11900k CPU. According to benchmark tests a Nivida RTX 4090 would be bottlenecked by a 11900k more then 20% running at stock speed however I was wonder whether overclocking the CPU and member would help in improving the performance of the 4090?
 
I have a LGA 1200 Socket Motherboard with an 11900k CPU. According to benchmark tests a Nivida RTX 4090 would be bottlenecked by a 11900k more then 20% running at stock speed however I was wonder whether overclocking the CPU and member would help in improving the performance of the 4090?
No, the 11th Gen was quite a poor cpu series generally so I think it would seriously bottleneck a 4090 (and even a 4080 imo!). Still worth purchasing, just keep in mind once you update your platform then you'll be getting a good boost from it.
 
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