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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
And AMD will probably sell most of them fine:
www.cnbc.com

Meta and Microsoft say they will buy AMD's new AI chip as an alternative to Nvidia's

AMD's newest AI chip, the Instinct MI300X, could give big tech buyers leverage over Nvidia, if it works as advertised and is price-competitive.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com


All of these companies have huge software teams,so they will be doing their own software development too.

You seem to forget AMD also makes CPUs too,and is probably aiming to sell these as entire packages for supercomputers. The fastest supercomputer in the world,ie,Frontier,uses AMD CPUs and MI250 dGPUs. That is reinforced by the fact the MI300A/MI300X APUs are socket compatible with Epyc so existing customers can slot one in. That is what they are probably aiming to do,so they are not fighting Nvidia directly.
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Good news. AMD need to take the competition to Nvidia and stop them from raking in huge profits due to silly markups.

We need competition. Hopefully eventually in desktop GPU's also.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Making a graphics card worse, and continuing to sell it under the same name? Classic Nvidia.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
And AMD will probably sell most of them fine:
www.cnbc.com

Meta and Microsoft say they will buy AMD's new AI chip as an alternative to Nvidia's

AMD's newest AI chip, the Instinct MI300X, could give big tech buyers leverage over Nvidia, if it works as advertised and is price-competitive.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com


All of these companies have huge software teams,so they will be doing their own software development too.

You seem to forget AMD also makes CPUs too,and is probably aiming to sell these as entire packages for supercomputers. The fastest supercomputer in the world,ie,Frontier,uses AMD CPUs and MI250 dGPUs. That is reinforced by the fact the MI300A/MI300X APUs are socket compatible with Epyc so existing customers can slot one in. That is what they are probably aiming to do,so they are not fighting Nvidia directly.
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From this article “
Price will also be important. AMD didn’t reveal pricing for the MI300X on Wednesday, but Nvidia’s can cost around $40,000 for one chip, and Su told reporters that AMD’s chip would have to cost less to purchase and operate than Nvidia’s in order to persuade customers to buy it.”

My guess is they’ll be undercutting Nvidia by more than the customary 10% that RTG gaming cards get.
 
TNA said:
Good news. AMD need to take the competition to Nvidia and stop them from raking in huge profits due to silly markups.

We need competition. Hopefully eventually in desktop GPU's also.
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If AMD and other companies do cost Nvidia sales,the side effect is Nvidia will have to refocus a bit more on the consumer side. ATM,they seem to have a take it and leave it approach to gamers. AMD needs to focus on less SKUs,and make sure the ones they make are released in a decent state and actually get companies like Dell,etc to integrate their products.

Joxeon said:
From this article “
Price will also be important. AMD didn’t reveal pricing for the MI300X on Wednesday, but Nvidia’s can cost around $40,000 for one chip, and Su told reporters that AMD’s chip would have to cost less to purchase and operate than Nvidia’s in order to persuade customers to buy it.”

My guess is they’ll be undercutting Nvidia by more than the customary 10% that RTG gaming cards get.
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OFC,but you need to think how much these class of dGPUs would normally sell for? So even if AMD sold them for half the price,it's still more than what they would be normally able to get for one.

Also the MI300 series APUs are another "value" play - basically in existing socket infrastructure you can deploy additional accelerators. OFC,not sure how they will pan out but on the technical side they are interesting!
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
And AMD will probably sell most of them fine:
www.cnbc.com

Meta and Microsoft say they will buy AMD's new AI chip as an alternative to Nvidia's

AMD's newest AI chip, the Instinct MI300X, could give big tech buyers leverage over Nvidia, if it works as advertised and is price-competitive.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com


All of these companies have huge software teams,so they will be doing their own software development too.

You seem to forget AMD also makes CPUs too,and is probably aiming to sell these as entire packages for supercomputers. The fastest supercomputer in the world,ie,Frontier,uses AMD CPUs and MI250 dGPUs. That is reinforced by the fact the MI300A/MI300X APUs are socket compatible with Epyc so existing customers can slot one in. That is what they are probably aiming to do,so they are not fighting Nvidia directly.
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"Su also told reporters that AMD doesn’t think that it needs to beat Nvidia to do well in the market."

Su knows it's a huge market and there is a lot of profit to be made, Nvidia is making something like 400-500% profit on each data centre GPU it sells so there is a lot of room for competition

AMD isn't forecasting huge sales yet, its data centre GPU revenue for next year was just increased and is now forecast for $2 billion for 2024, compared against Nvidia's $14 billion it's doing atm per quarter, so by AMD's own numbers they're aiming for 3% market in 2024 as compared to Nvidia
 
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Grim5 said:
pre-emptively crushing any hopes AMD had with its new GPU launch
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Grim5 said:
"Su also told reporters that AMD doesn’t think that it needs to beat Nvidia to do well in the market."

Su knows it's a huge market and there is a lot of profit to be made, Nvidia is making something like 400-500% profit on each data centre GPU it sells so there is a lot of room for competition

AMD isn't forecasting huge sales yet, its data centre GPU revenue for next year was just increased and is now forecast for $2 billion for 2024, compared against Nvidia's $14 billion it's doing atm per quarter
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But you implied they would have issues selling them. Those updated benchmarks Nvidia released to the press are for marketing.

If companies are literally buying consumer grade dGPUs like the RTX4090/RX7900XTX to do this stuff,do you honestly think that AMD will have an issue selling what they make?

Meta, OpenAI, and Microsoft would have had access to the "updated Nvidia software" before the press release and access to relevant AMD hardware already(engineering samples) to see how their own custom software works.

They are not just going to buy a bunch of AMD hardware,before their own software people have had a chance to try it out.
 
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Still been umming over a 4000 series card next year, but so far in the last two months all I've played is DayZ! The OLED I purchased is bloody amazing but game wise meh

Battlefield 2042 full of cheaters
Warzone, hardly anyone plays they prefer hardcore or Zombies
DayZ only play when one of my mates is on
Already completed Cyberpunk and The Witcher so meh :o:(
 
Neil79 said:
Damn it, I'm going to play Alan Wake 2 now :mad: :D
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erill1971 said:
It was damn good on my Samsung neo g8, but I think I will have to buy a cable and plug in the 65-inch OLED TV I have (lg evo g3)
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I nearly lost interest in it as the early forest areas dont really show off the HDR but later on in in the cities with all the neon etc it really pops. I also use the Prod80_03_CurvedLevels Reshade to get darker blacks
 
Devious said:
I nearly lost interest in it as the early forest areas dont really show off the HDR but later on in in the cities with all the neon etc it really pops. I also use the Prod80_03_CurvedLevels Reshade to get darker blacks
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Going to save up and buy a 4080 though, this game brings my 3070 ti to its knees :cry: :cry:
 
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