Caporegime
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Not like you didn't know they were coming dude
MILDred floated a pricecut a couple of months back too, which might not even happen tbf.-
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MILDred floated a pricecut a couple of months back too, which might not even happen tbf.
Soldato
Not like you didn't know they were coming dude
Yeah I know. Didn't expect such a price cut though.
Also, MLID can go suck a lemon.
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24 is fine for gaming right now and the shift to GDDR7 I dont think we'll be getting anymore, the 80 might go up to 20 and the 70 to 16 while the 60ti will probably get 12.
I would be surprised if they stick with 24, only because historically they’ve never gone more than 2 generations on the flagship GPU with the same amount of VRAM (10xx/20xx). Every other flagship that I can think of saw a bump in VRAM. If they stick with 24 that would be three generations which seems a bit much.
Keep in mind next ones will be gddr7 so will cost more. But who knows they may go more and just charge more for the 5090. As you can see from this forum many are happy to pay so why not I suppose?
But 5080 and 5070 will likely be 16GB which would be fine by me.
Soldato
I would be really surprised if the 5080 was 16GB. But yeah it could be.
Cost isn’t a problem they just put the price up
We'll know in about 9 to 10 months, My guess is the price due to wafer costs going up substantially will be around 20% higher across the stack.
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Caporegime
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PS5 Pro is being touted to sticking with 16GB total too, so would likely be fine.
Yeah. 16GB will be fine. For me anyway.
Man of Honour
The consoles exclusively use upscaling though remember, so whilst 16GB will be fine, those DLDSR or "native" purists may be left wanting for a little more on newer titles that are heavy on textures etc maybe. Also the general texture resolution on console vs PC for the same games has a noticeable difference where PC is higher which is expected, so higher mem usage follows.
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16GB VRAM should be fine for the next 4-6 years, at the least, but 20GB VRAM does give more peace of mind, but at a cost, for the moment.
In the end though it comes down to how much you are willing to pay.
If you have no problems paying £1000+ for a graphics card then you will always be ahead of the curve.
If you are in the mid range, and God help us, that's the £500-£600 mark, now then the amount of VRAM matters, as you will want the most bang for your buck, and a card that will give 5+ years of service at least.
In the end though it comes down to how much you are willing to pay.
If you have no problems paying £1000+ for a graphics card then you will always be ahead of the curve.
If you are in the mid range, and God help us, that's the £500-£600 mark, now then the amount of VRAM matters, as you will want the most bang for your buck, and a card that will give 5+ years of service at least.
Soldato
Rumours of a supposed 4090 Ti/Super have resurfaced again, It could just be a new data center-centric GPU but it's possible it could be a new halo card, Probably starting at £2499 for the FE IF it's real -
www.tomshardware.com
Mysterious 'Skinny' Joe' Nvidia GPU spotted with a 700W TDP rating — theories abound about the new beastly silicon
This probably isn't RTX 4090 Ti.
www.tomshardware.com
Man of Honour
Compared to the only other game with path tracing, Night City is a world full of things to blow up and shoot. I'm talking about Alan Wake of course. Not including Portal RTX and stuff as they aren't fully finished releases but more tech previews whereas AW2 and CP2077 are release products with matured path tracing.
As for light sources can't be destroyed, this is not true, many can't be, but others can:
Strangely the street lampposts down in the city itself blow out without the dimming delay like above out in the hills, maybe spacetime continuum or some such
It's determined by bus width. I can't see them going wider than 384 bits, in which case the only option for increased VRAM would be 36GB which is way too much of an increase.
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Then please don't post such explicit comments like you were 'told' such and such, we have enough bull**** floating around on here!! I should know, I post most of it
We had whole conversation threads about how nvidia were gonna price at silly prices. I'll ridicule them I think. Might learn for next time.
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It also depends on what RAM chips are available. You can have denser RAM on the same bus width.
I doubt they will go 384 bit, but if double density RAM is available by the time it comes out, then 48GB is easily possible.
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Doesn't look like GDDR7 will see a jump. Still 16Gb chips.
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All signs point to first gen gddr7 being only a mild improvement over gddr6x in terms of raw performance. Power draw may be lower which is a benefit too, but cost will be higher and performance only mildly improved. Probably have to wait for 2nd gen to realise the full benefits of gddr7
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48GB is easily possible now, just by going back to the 24x chip design of the 3090 but with the 16Gb chips used on the 3090Ti and 4090.
48GB is clearly way too much for a consumer class product though as the price would rocket for no appreciable gains.
36GB would be possible if 24Gb chips became available but, as you say, there's no sign of this happening yet.