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NVIDIA 4000 Series
- Thread starter MrClippy
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I recently worked out if I hadn’t spent something like £400 on an original iPod at launch and instead bought Apple shares of the same value they would be worth about £300k now.
To add insult to injury I lost the iPod years ago.
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Return it before the buyers remorse really kicks in.Even with a great monitor and a very decent 4080 Super OC GPU, I don't know what to play now
Ratchet and Clank - Awesome game completed it yesterday on ultra RT. Amazing with the new card!
Alan Wake - Can't seem to get back into it now
The Witcher 3 - Completed it years ago, but can't get back into it even with RT and running high frames rates
Cyberpunk - Completed it, just not interested in the DLC, burnt out on Cyberpunk
Ass Creed Valhalla - HDR not working right, turned off HDR, whites and darks are crushed in torch lit areas on the OLED, so can't play it
Any suggestions for this GPU?
Caporegime
Humph..... i think its time, Star Citizen is getting a MASSIVE patch, lots of changes and my GPU has suffered long enough...
Caporegime
and... done.
Soldato
One of my all time favourite GPU's was, literally this limited edition beuty. Sales pictures i took of it before i put it on the MM, i have cleared my Image host countless times since then, everytime when i get to these pictures i stop... no, i can't. They stay...
Yes.
Had the same card, absolute stonking GPU.
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It's cherry picked because it all started to go wrong around the GTX 680. Anything after that mentioned seems like a normal increase , but anything before that seems like a rubbish upgrade and silly price increases on gpus after the gtx 580, gtx 680 time was when it all went seriously wrong and then the titan games too.
As someone here mentioned you maybe a young person that got into gpus at a later time so all seems normal to you but to us that have been around since the beginning of graphics cards and later called gpus are seeing serious price increases for little gains compared to what we use to get before, as said it was normal to get a 100% increase or more from generation to generation and a 50% increase only would end up being a generation fail in the past. BUT now people (new people into the hobby) think 15%-30% increase is normal and thankful for it and then the creeping prices too for less than what we use to get in the past. It is all depending on when you got into pc gaming and technology to what you class as the normal or acceptable increases in performance and price.
Us old folk feel we are being ripped off as we see things have got a lot worse from what we use to get and that will not change until us older folk are out of the market and the new generation of people take over buying and seeing it as the normal and not questioning it.
A little bit of history here for you :-
As you will see it all depends when you got into pc hardware and graphics/gpu cards. So really you are right and wrong at the same time and you will now understand why some of us are not happy with what has happened and still happening and getting worse for customers.
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Very good post @Purgatory. Prime example of how the market changed for the worse is GTX480 - it was truly an incredible GPU, pushing the boundries of processing power, but it had a tdp of 250w(lol), so was labelled as power monster then 
and generally considered as a flop. Now? Even stupidly priced 2080ti with small gain over 1080ti was considered ok-ish...
and generally considered as a flop. Now? Even stupidly priced 2080ti with small gain over 1080ti was considered ok-ish...
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Caporegime
Good post.
As an example the 4060Ti is 10% faster than the 3060Ti its replaced for the same at launch MSRP.
Its the same story with the RX 7800XT, its 10%, less even, faster than the RX 6800XT, but it looks great in comparison, because that at least is $150, $170 now.... cheaper than the RX 6800XT was, i have to conclude this is good, because in context it is, its probably the best deal there is, apart from maybe the 4090 tho i'm not so sure about that because they cost around £2000 now don't they? Unless you get lucky.
But the objective reality is the 7800XT is actually pretty bad, which shows how far we have fallen.
And i've just bought one, begrudgingly, because for £480 or so what else is there? This absolute pile of junk?
Gigabyte RTX 4060Ti WindForce OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Order Gigabyte RTX 4060Ti WindForce OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card now online and benefit from fast delivery.
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I hate that piece of _____ existing, its in a front to humanity, what an abomination! Someone please delete it from the fabric of space and time. People need to hate Nvidia just for spawning it from the crusty burned cow juice in the depths of Jenson's oven.
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You're in the sweet spot imo. Buy midrange, sell on and buy midrange again and maintain a steady level of performance whilst costing relatively little.
Even with a great monitor and a very decent 4080 Super OC GPU, I don't know what to play now
Ratchet and Clank - Awesome game completed it yesterday on ultra RT. Amazing with the new card!
Alan Wake - Can't seem to get back into it now
The Witcher 3 - Completed it years ago, but can't get back into it even with RT and running high frames rates
Cyberpunk - Completed it, just not interested in the DLC, burnt out on Cyberpunk
Ass Creed Valhalla - HDR not working right, turned off HDR, whites and darks are crushed in torch lit areas on the OLED, so can't play it
Any suggestions for this GPU?
For valhalla, try nvidias RTX true hdr mod. Based on reports and my own experience so far, it works incredibly well, way better than windows auto hdr which has raised blacks and the incorrect gamma, only con with this is there is a bit of a performance hit but it's not too bad and you can adjust this to your liking:
NvTrueHDR - RTX HDR for games
Nvidia's AI-powered HDR converter, now for games too. (alternative for Windows AutoHDR)
www.nexusmods.com
Given how shocking games hdr implementation is, this has become probably my second favourite rtx feature now to the point it's a must have, sadly as usual, we have game devs to thank for the hdr situation.
As for other games that look great, these are some of my favourites with RT, bound to be some here you'll like:
- palworld with the rt enabled is pretty damn nice - https://www.nexusmods.com/palworld/mods/74?tab=description
- spiderman
- dying light 2 (with the hdr mod above and RT maxed, it looks incredible, dark scenes are absolutely terrfying now thanks to having proper blacks and gamma)
- watch dogs legion (meh game but a looker)
- portal rtx if you're a fan of portal
- deathloop, runs very well (subtle use of RT but really made a difference)
- the ascent (prob one of my favourite games recently both visually and gameplay wise)
- returnal
- warhammer darktide
- deliver us the moon and deliver us mars (2 indie game that look really nice with the RT)
- chernobylite
- ghostwire toyko (mixed views on this but I quite enjoyed it tbh, something different)
- icarus
- f1 23
- doom eternal (when you get further in the game, there are a lot of areas/levels with metal/glass environments so the RT reflections looks pretty good here)
- elden ring iirc, has RT now, although light
- robocop (although only software RT but still visually good)
- avatar
- RE remakes, particularly 4 for me (village wasn't too bad either but very light RT usage where it was quite noticeable in the low res reflections)
- ark survival ascended (runs really **** but a stunning looking game)
EDIT:
Crysis remastered probably worth a look, which reminds me, I need to get around to playing these with RT!
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Caporegime
@Nexus18 when running games with the RTX HDR do you leave HDR off in the Windows display settings?
Nope so:
- turn windows hdr on
- leave windows auto hdr off
- if the game has HDR and it's ****, turn it off in the game to allow rtx hdr to be applied
I think you need w11 and also with 531.18 onwards driver (on the latest version of rtx true hdr)
This won't work if you're using DLDSR btw.
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Caporegime
AMD already has a NPU in the 8600G/8700G - upto 16 TOPS of performance.
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Have they fixed or implemented server meshing yet so fps is better with less stutters? Really want to get back into it but with Squadron not too far now i think i'll wait it out for the single player experience.
For valhalla, try nvidias RTX true hdr mod. Based on reports and my own experience so far, it works incredibly well, way better than windows auto hdr which has raised blacks and the incorrect gamma, only con with this is there is a bit of a performance hit but it's not too bad and you can adjust this to your liking:
NvTrueHDR - RTX HDR for games
Nvidia's AI-powered HDR converter, now for games too. (alternative for Windows AutoHDR)
Given how shocking games hdr implementation is, this has become probably my second favourite rtx feature now to the point it's a must have, sadly as usual, we have game devs to thank for the hdr situation.
Nice one dude, thanks!
Let me know how it works in that game as I downloaded it a month or 2 back but also stopped playing due to the **** hdr so uninstalled
Might give it another go if the hdr mod works well for it.Another video I wanted to add but the forums don't allow more videos than what was added to my original post.
^.... Nvidia issues with hardware/software and really needs updating this video and adding the issues with the melting power connectors we are having on 4000 series too and other issues that have cropped up since then.