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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Caporegime
I don't like the way they lump Polaris, which is an 8 year old GPU to RDNA 3 all together, basically everything from AMD in the last 8 years as one meaningless blob.
They don't think AMD matter to break it down in the same way they do Nvidia, while they might not be wrong about that for someone who actually is looking for data this chart fails entirely, its an Nvidia pie chart with "other"
So in delivering a data set in what it is titled and with that purports to be i give it a D-, its useless, go back to school.
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Caporegime
Thanks but it doesn't say anything more than the chart, he say's RDNA 3 might be underrepresented but... and lol.... he doesn't provide any of that or any other specific AMD data anyway.
Caporegime
I will add tho he is right about Steam, i had a Steam Hardware Survey request a couple of months ago, it absolutely did recognise my 7800 XT, and yet it or anything other than the 7900 XTX shows up in the Survey, as if that's the only RDNA 3 card that sells, we all know the 7800 XT is the best selling RDNA 3 card and yet according to Steam it doesn't even exist.
Clearly for whatever reason that Survey is ignoring everything but the 7900 XTX.
Clearly for whatever reason that Survey is ignoring everything but the 7900 XTX.
I think you're missing the points/reasoning he provided for doing the graph this way.... You might not like how AMD has been represented here but that doesn't change the facts such as:
- 30 series is the most popular of all time, given the pandemic and massive surplus. 3050s and 3060s are still being sold new today
- 64% of users with dgpu are able to use DLSS
Caporegime
The point is simply that if you wanted a breakdown of AMD's sales, like to see how bad or not RDNA 3 is doing you can't get that from this chart.
Its fine if all you want is a breakdown of Nvidia's share, but that's it, that's the full extent of its usefulness.
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I think we all know by now that it's safe to say RDNA 3 hasn't done well....
Caporegime
We don't know that, that's the point.
Soldato
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Don't think I've ever seen my MSI 4090 go above 45 degees
What do you consider to be "doing well"? As for RDNA 3 to be doing well from my POV, especially to be considered a success from AMDs POV, it would need to at the very least be 30% and if amds dGPU market share was at that, I'm sure it would have been reported elsewhere via news outlets etc.
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Does it really matter if it’s done well at all? All that matters is that with Intel it’s an alternative to Nvidia’s monopoly and that is always a good thing: choice.
I don't disagree, no one wants a monopoly but it seems a bit silly to almost hold out hope that AMD have somehow managed to "do well" with rdna 3. For AMD to stick around in the dgpu space, they need to be doing well and meeting their targets, if they aren't, well they'll pull out as is rumoured to have happened at the high end for rdna 4 and imo, that means, they need to be hitting at least 30% with rdna 3 alone. I suspect their main focus is going to be primarily on consoles now especially with the refresh consoles coming at some point.
Either way, point of the graph given it's posted in the 40xx series thread.... is to show that in the end 40xx looks to have been somewhat of a success in the dgpu space from steam stats (on here, some people seem to think the 40xx have been sitting gathering dust on shelves.....) so people shouldn't be expecting much to change for 50xx price per performance now as why change when the people have voted with their wallet.... (especially when we're not even looking at the business side of the market where such gpus are even more sought after....)
I can see 50xx being much the same as ada pricing now, if a 5080 doesn't come in at <£1k, a second hand 4090 for 1k could be the next best bang per buck at the high end.
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I agree with you, AMD will see if they can make mid range segment a “success” (whatever that means) but they may just pull out of that and stick to consoles and CPUs.
Most who have hung on will be forced to upgrade to lesser versions (smaller die area vs historical) of 70 class 80 class chips in the future.
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I'd say we have more of a picture on RDNA3's success then the current Intel CPU issues.
Soldato
As pointed out from the tech influencer circles lately - its a generation of the 480 approach. If you had a fury or a high end 2x0, looking at the Polaris options was grim because it was not really any better for the money. Many years later the general market look back at the Polaris cards as pretty solid and offered good value for money. AMD Radeon seem to not be able to shave off costs like nvidia so the high end struggle to compete every generation.
Soldato
Can't see that chart being real as going by that chart 54% of the market has the latest Ampere or Lovelace Gpu's
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Caporegime
Well it has, there are large stores like Mindfactory who report the 7800 XT outselling any Nvidia GPU, i would consider that doing very well, but we don't know how that translates on the broadest level.
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Maybe some German retailer advertising spam would appease some of you."The Steam Hardware Survey, sponsored by Nvidia.. in association with Useful Idiots".
LMAO it got mentioned when I posted.
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