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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Was looking for an nvidia card and was recommended a Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Solid 16GB Graphics Card around £700 in a new build I'm putting together.

Is this the best around that price?

If I was to add another £100-£200 to the budget, where should I be looking?
 
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There is surprisingly little around about the Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Solid.

I bought one a few weeks ago in the early black friday sale on OC, but haven't opened it yet as I'm still waiting on a couple of other parts arriving from OC and other river themed retailers.

It's still the best deal around on a 4070 ti, though as of today you can find cards from MSI and Gigabyte for about £40 more.

I'm not going to swap it or anything but I have been surprised by how few videos etc there are on this card. According to reddit it uses 4090 dies which weren't considered good enough rather than the standard 4070 ti version, but I highly don't that makes any noticeable difference good or ill

I know I could have went for the 7900xt. Probably sounds silly (and likely is) but I very rarely upgrade my PC (every 6 years or so) and I've had a series of AMD GPUs and I just wanted to try Nvidia this time
 
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tiberuk said:
There is surprisingly little around about the Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Solid.

I bought one a few weeks ago in the early black friday sale on OC, but haven't opened it yet as I'm still waiting on a couple of other parts arriving from OC and other river themed retailers.

It's still the best deal around on a 4070 ti, though as of today you can find cards from MSI and Gigabyte for about £40 more.

I'm not going to swap it or anything but I have been surprised by how few videos etc there are on this card. According to reddit it uses 4090 dies which weren't considered good enough rather than the standard 4070 ti version, but I highly don't that makes any noticeable difference good or ill

I know I could have went for the 7900xt. Probably sounds silly (and likely is) but I very rarely upgrade my PC (every 6 years or so) and I've had a series of AMD GPUs and I just wanted to try Nvidia this time
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makes perfect sense on my 3rd AMD gpu and thinking the same thing last night
 
tiberuk said:
There is surprisingly little around about the Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Solid.

I bought one a few weeks ago in the early black friday sale on OC, but haven't opened it yet as I'm still waiting on a couple of other parts arriving from OC and other river themed retailers.

It's still the best deal around on a 4070 ti, though as of today you can find cards from MSI and Gigabyte for about £40 more.

I'm not going to swap it or anything but I have been surprised by how few videos etc there are on this card. According to reddit it uses 4090 dies which weren't considered good enough rather than the standard 4070 ti version, but I highly don't that makes any noticeable difference good or ill

I know I could have went for the 7900xt. Probably sounds silly (and likely is) but I very rarely upgrade my PC (every 6 years or so) and I've had a series of AMD GPUs and I just wanted to try Nvidia this time
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So if you were buying now would you spend the extra on an MSI or Gigabyte card?

I'm willing to spend a bit more for a better card in the 4070 TI range.
 
andy85wsm said:
So if you were buying now would you spend the extra on an MSI or Gigabyte card?

I'm willing to spend a bit more for a better card in the 4070 TI range.
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Another £40 for a MSI card, £79 for Gigabyte or £29 for a slightly different Zotac card... to be honest? Probably not? Unless the other Zotac card is a lot better but I suspect the biggest difference is that it's black instead of white

I really got the TI instead of a 4070 Super or AMD card because it squeezed in at under £700. I've tried to really search out deals for every part of this build to stretch what I got for my budget. I waited to get the deals I wanted on PSU, ROM and motherboard to allow me to get a better CPU and GPU than I originally hoped. If you have the budget go for it

Is the MSI card really going to be that much better? Maybe it is idk, the difference between all the various third party versions has never been particular clear to me. I'm still pretty chuffed to have a 4070 super ti when at the start of all this I was looking at a 4070 super

It's still the cheapest deal on the market, but I am a tiny bit annoyed that the Zotac super solid now comes with a free game but when I bought mine last week it didn't.
 
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Picked up an Asus 4070Ti OC Super to replace my Gigabyte Xtreme 1080Ti at long last. Will see how the 50xx series shape up in terms of price/performance when they drop.
 
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Tempted to jump on a 4090 again as the most free time I will have is over xmas :P (possibly 4-5 weeks if biz at work dies down early)

And a lot of the games I want to catch up on will work best with a 4090 over a 7900xtx

I would go all in on GeForce Now but the picture quality degradation is only acceptable if you don't compare with a local machine.

May bite on the MM we shall see.
 
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andy85wsm said:
Was looking for an nvidia card and was recommended a Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Solid 16GB Graphics Card around £700 in a new build I'm putting together.

Is this the best around that price?

If I was to add another £100-£200 to the budget, where should I be looking?
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just stay with the super solid if going 4070tiS. it's no frills, no rgb, just a big cooler and fans so will do the job. goinbg £200 more, forget the 4070tiS, and just go 4080sup such as the zotac trinity..it'll outperform any 4070ti there is

below was based on HU averages for games they tested(someone looking at 4070 or expensive 4070tisuper..so put the 4080super in)...now if your thinking of getting a super solid then the price between that and a trinity 4080super is £200, or 28%, but you'll be getting 21.4% better performance than the 4070tisuper...which isn't too shabby...buying a more expensive 4070tisup will more than likely get you 1-2% at most my guess...they're all pretty much on a par

of course going less than 4k, you're just talking more frames, but performance % diff prob wont change that much

for example...all 4k
4070 super 60fps (50 0.1% lows), (ray tracing 1440p (they dont supply 4k) 76, 0.1% low 64)
4070ti super 70fps(59 0.1% lows)...ray 81/68
4080super 85fps(72 0.1%lows) ray 101/86

so 4070tiS is 16.6% faster than the 4070S, 18% faster 0.1% lows, and in ray tracing 6% faster
the 4080 is 21.4% faster than the 4070tis or 42% faster than the 4070, it's 1% lows are faster than the 4070ti normal av, and 20% faster than the 4070tis lows and 44% faster than the 4070...in ray it's just under 27% faster than the 4070ti, it's lows 26% faster

for the £830 you're paying for the 4070tisuper, I'd just pay £900 for the zotac trinity triiple fan..it has a 5yrs warranty is a damn site faster and only 8% more expensive
4070tisuper is just too expensive for performance compared to the 4070super
 
Craig_d1 said:
just stay with the super solid if going 4070tiS. it's no frills, no rgb, just a big cooler and fans so will do the job. goinbg £200 more, forget the 4070tiS, and just go 4080sup such as the zotac trinity..it'll outperform any 4070ti there is

below was based on HU averages for games they tested(someone looking at 4070 or expensive 4070tisuper..so put the 4080super in)...now if your thinking of getting a super solid then the price between that and a trinity 4080super is £200, or 28%, but you'll be getting 21.4% better performance than the 4070tisuper...which isn't too shabby...buying a more expensive 4070tisup will more than likely get you 1-2% at most my guess...they're all pretty much on a par

of course going less than 4k, you're just talking more frames, but performance % diff prob wont change that much

for example...all 4k
4070 super 60fps (50 0.1% lows), (ray tracing 1440p (they dont supply 4k) 76, 0.1% low 64)
4070ti super 70fps(59 0.1% lows)...ray 81/68
4080super 85fps(72 0.1%lows) ray 101/86

so 4070tiS is 16.6% faster than the 4070S, 18% faster 0.1% lows, and in ray tracing 6% faster
the 4080 is 21.4% faster than the 4070tis or 42% faster than the 4070, it's 1% lows are faster than the 4070ti normal av, and 20% faster than the 4070tis lows and 44% faster than the 4070...in ray it's just under 27% faster than the 4070ti, it's lows 26% faster

for the £830 you're paying for the 4070tisuper, I'd just pay £900 for the zotac trinity triiple fan..it has a 5yrs warranty is a damn site faster and only 8% more expensive
4070tisuper is just too expensive for performance compared to the 4070super
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Thanks!

At this rate I'll end up on a 4090 and never actually play games on it!
 
andy85wsm said:
Thanks!

At this rate I'll end up on a 4090 and never actually play games on it!
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this wil stop you in your tracks then

same vid his av for 4k gaming wirh 4090 was 112fps compared to 85 for the 4080super...so yes, nice bump of 31% increase in raster, but only 13.8% increase in raytracing
but seeing as the 4080s is £900 and the 4090 is £1800 upwards, you're paying min 200% of the cost of the 4080sup min...

or, 31% gain for 100% cost increase

compared to the 21.4% better framerate for 28% cost increase going from the 4070ti super solid to the 4080super tinity

4080super on sensible uplift at mo, esp with new cards beginning of next year...so really, hang on for those
 
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Not sure they'll be that cheap, but i'll be happy of they are
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say a 3090 strix sell at 600 just after 4090 release...what was that new, £1400 at least...4080sup are £900 now...don't think £500 that outlandish, though will depend how much of an improvement there is and uptake etc..prob more £600 though
 
If i can grab a 4080 super with some warranty with some warranty for £650 i'll be happy. but with new cards being so expensive I can see less people upgrading - where do you go from a 4080? 2nd hand 4090 or £2000 5090? I can't see the market being flooded with cheap cards!!
 
I can't see the 4090 dropping in price anything like the 3090 did. The 3090's problem was the plentiful 3080's which weren't much slower and the 3080Ti. Also there was the shiny new 4070 around the similar speed with new features.

This time, if the leaked specs are correct, the 5070 won't be anywhere near the power of a 4090, and I'm struggling to see how the 5080 will beat it and how much is that going to cost.
 
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