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Is that because the card won’t draw the power without the 4 sense pins connected to an atx3.0 psu though?

Because if the adapters don’t use all the sense pins (pins 4 and 6) on the 8pin pcie then the cards can draw more than the 150w per connector without the psu knowing.
Pretty sure the 3090ti adapter is like this as people have stripped them down to make custom cables such as this:

i looked at emprical results posted on a website, the thing took in 450 watts irrespective of the number of inputs.. the test was done with 2 and 3 8-pin adapters, likely the device too has to be engineered to specs

edit: btw someone on the reddit post you linked was able to pull in 600w without the sense pins, so i dont know :P
"It also bypasses the sense wires in the PSU. The GPU can just draw whatever it wants then without the PSU worrying about "oh, is this an 8 pin connector and do all my ATX spec things?"." - lephuron
 
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I was all set for the zotac 4090 but not paying £1729.

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You said the same last time with the 3090. You said you was going to stick to your 2080Ti. Day by day it will eat at you not having the best :p
 
If only there was direct correlation between the quality of game releases now and gpu prices. I nearly shelled out early for Cyberpunk and Battlefield and look how they turned out :D
Cyberpunk was one of the better disappointments in years, sure had dumb bugs but still good
 
Cyberpunk was one of the better disappointments in years, sure had dumb bugs but still good
I really liked the main story in Cyberpunk. Way too short though. I also played it on an RTX 3060 with RT reflections enabled at 1440p with the help of DLSS and had a perfectly enjoyable experience. No desire to ever play it again however, so it sure ain't selling me on a new card.
 
100% this! 2 years on and still a pile of dung poo. Visually it looks good but boring as hell.

I bet everyone who brought a RT Card went through the list ;
Quake 2 RTX
Cyberpunk
Metro Exodus - Enhanced Edition
and Can it run Crysis

Only buying 4080, because Squad is running veri bad on my 3070ti

not every maxed out and running out of VRAM
 
Arguably it started happening with the 10 series (6 years ago) as that's when Nvidia profits started climbing from a little over $2bn a year to the heady highs of more than $15bn per year.

Profits may have done so, but the 1080 was $599 at launch to the 980's $549 (and AMD's profits followed a similar trajectory). Although, looking at, I guess the way was paved by the 2080 Super, 2080 Ti, and Titan RTX. Back then, I think most people understood these as "Halo" cards rather than anything that ordinary gamers were looking at, and the 4090 released here is the same.

The only problem is that this gen your not going to get 3090ti performance for £650, the 4070 which is likely to be priced at that level now will only just match a 2 year old 3080. The cards are not only being priced higher but the actual performance of all but the 4090 is weaksauce.

How do you know what the performance of a card not even announced yet is? A handful of leaked results don't exactly give a clear picture. I suspect it will be true that older games don't see much benefit from the lower end 40x0 cards compared to more expensive 30x0 cards, Nvidia seem to have focused on delivering newer features (like raytracing support) rather than ramping up the power for more traditional techniques (man, how did shader-driven tech become "traditional"? I remember when they were brand new tech and super exciting). This seems very sensible. Very few are going to benefit from that. I mean, if the stickied GPU hierarchy is to be believed, even the base level 3050 is already powerful enough to run 1080p at 60Hz - which is going to be enough to satisfy most people on the monitors most people are using (65% of people on the latest Steam Survey).

According to that same survey less than 0.5% of people have a 3090, and the 3090 Ti is rare enough it gets lumped into "other". These are niche cards, offering ultimate power for big bucks. Now, if you have the money to spend on that: good on you, but complaining that a extremely niche, ultimate performance, product is expensive is weird. Just don't buy it.
 
Only buying 4080, because Squad is running veri bad on my 3070ti

not every maxed out and running out of VRAM

i brought the 3080 for an upgrade from the 5700XT, VR in MFS is now 40fps instead of being under 30's but with the new update people are seeing higher frames 90+ in NYC with DLSS.

so comparison from DLSS 2 and 3 i think that there is only a 20% increase in performance on real world figures between the two. But of course they don't show that ;).


 
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