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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Griffildur said:
that's a very good price, well done you!

I did look at the performance difference between 3080, 3080 TI and 3090 and it didn't look like I was getting much with a 3090 so I did not bother tbh.
I should add I game at 1440p
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same reason I didnt get the 3090ti plus I just wanted the ASUS TUF as I have the ASUS TUF Motherboard and I think the 3090ti was a gigabyte.


At this rate the ones waiting for the 4000 for the price etc maybe out of luck if they change their mind as there will be no stock 3080ti or higher unless more arrives as it seems to be selling out now.
 
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K1LLER HORNET said:
I'd have thought you'd have an order in already with price locked in?
Or is that not how it works with funny old nvidia :rolleyes:
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How our system works, probably similar for most competitors.

We raise a PO in USD with the rate that day, our system operates 2 cents under live rate for safety, though this could be revised to 5 cents if the volatility remains.

So if we raised a PO today at $1500 for a USD item we'd lock that PO at 1.10 (live rate 1.12)
Then when the delivery lands with us, the goodsin team/system will update the USD to what it is on that day, so if the day stock lands the rate is 1.15, stock will be booked at 1.13, this is then the rate I work of when setting pricing etc on the day of stock landing.

Then we will pay for goods typically 14-60 days later depending on supplier T&C's. As such if the pound crashes, we end paying more for goods, if the pound improves we pay less. Whichever way it swings we have a pot of money called exchange rate variance, some years it makes a profit, some years it makes a loss. Then of course we may be hedging funds, or buying dollars when the FD thinks rate is strong, I am however not privy to this information.

On 3080 launch we got burnt to put it simply, as they launched we sold 1000's and by the time we manage to fulfill orders we were paying much higher pricing due to currency weakening and also because suppliers were generally charging a lot more for them as well. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, in the end it tends to balance out.

Hope that tries to explain things a bit. USD items are high risk especially on GPU's which typically operate on sub 10% margins, as such the margin, all of it and more so can easily be wiped out by a currency downwards trend which unfortunately GBP has pretty much done over the last ten years. 2:1 down to nearly parity.

If GPU's had better margins for resellers like 20% plus then you'd hardly ever see pricing change as when you operate on higher margins your happy for 20% to become 10% for example so can essentially soak it up.

But when your working with 10% or less and the company soaks up several percentage points up for overheads is the reasoning why pricing can be like a YO YO at times, GPU's are time consuming and create a lot of work for the company so of course we want them to make money.
 
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varkanoid said:
Cheapest one I saw was £1049 but I just went for the 3090 at £899.
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Griffildur said:
well, I don 't really care what NVidia wants, i just wanted a decent card, not too expensive, to last me for the next 6 years ish. I don't upgrade often, my last upgrade was to a 1080, back in 2016
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Same here never saw the 3090ti for £900, cheapest I saw it too was £1049. For new stock anyways.
 
Gibbo said:
All US prices exclude sale tax as like you say the tax varies state to state.
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yep , If in the USA seem they will get the Strix from between £1809-£2044 ( 0%-13%) while in the uk that is looking more like £2170 plus margins, handling , shipping by yourself so yeah £2250 -£2300 it is :)

What's the price on the TUF currently looking like as i could consider one of them if the price isn't ridiculous :cry:
 
Gibbo said:
How our system works, probably similar for most competitors.

We raise a PO in USD with the rate that day, our system operates 2 cents under live rate for safety, though this could be revised to 5 cents if the volatility remains.

So if we raised a PO today at $1500 for a USD item we'd lock that PO at 1.10 (live rate 1.12)
Then when the delivery lands with us, the goodsin team/system will update the USD to what it is on that day, so if the day stock lands the rate is 1.15, stock will be booked at 1.13, this is then the rate I work of when setting pricing etc on the day of stock landing.

Then we will pay for goods typically 14-60 days later depending on supplier T&C's. As such if the pound crashes, we end paying more for goods, if the pound improves we pay less. Whichever way it swings we have a pot of money called exchange rate variance, some years it makes a profit, some years it makes a loss. Then of course we may be hedging funds, or buying dollars when the FD thinks rate is strong, I am however not privy to this information.

On 3080 launch we got burnt to put it simply, as they launched we sold 1000's and by the time we manage to fulfill orders we were paying much higher pricing due to currency weakening and also because suppliers were generally charging a lot more for them as well. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, in the end it tends to balance out.

Hope that tries to explain things a bit. USD items are high risk especially on GPU's which typically operate on sub 10% margins, as such the margin, all of it and more so can easily be wiped out by a currency downwards trend which unfortunately GBP has pretty much done over the last ten years. 2:1 down to nearly parity.

If GPU's had better margins for resellers like 20% plus then you'd hardly ever see pricing change as when you operate on higher margins your happy for 20% to become 10% for example so can essentially soak it up.

But when your working with 10% or less and the company soaks up several percentage points up for overheads is the reasoning why pricing can be like a YO YO at times, GPU's are time consuming and create a lot of work for the company so of course we want them to make money.
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I appreciate the explanation Gibbo, great post
 
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