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Griffildur said:
jesus, the power draw was another reason I went the 3080TI, this one is 350W I believe ...
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You say that, but it means I do not need to heat my gaming room, and since that's where I spend most of my time, it means I do not need to switch the heating on in my house. Ever. :cry:
 
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@Gypsum Fantastic in future gamins session:

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Gibbo said:
All US prices exclude sale tax as like you say the tax varies state to state.
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You don't pay sales tax if the reseller doesn't have a physical presence in the state to which you're shipping... So, not many people pay sales tax for larger online orders. It's one of the only times it's beneficial to live (or have a shipping address in po-dunk USA.
 
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Greebo said:
Who on earth is going to buy one of them at £2300????????????
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With 43k post count I'm surprised you have to ask - I'd wager a good number of the folk replying to this thread will get one!

Also, thought it was only £2300 when the pound was at it's lowest, isn't it closer to £2000ish?
 
Jay-G25 said:
Sales tax in the USA is up to 13% depending on which state you live in but yeah in the UK that is 20% which does make them even more expensive for us :rolleyes:
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I am glad I live in UK.

Feel bad for people live in Denmark, Ireland, Norway and Sweden look forward to buy RTX 4090 cards that will be more expensive than UK. :eek:

Denmark 25%
Ireland 23%
Norway 25%
Sweden 25%
 
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Greebo said:
Who on earth is going to buy one of them at £2300????????????
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I've had many, many GPUs over the last several years. I build PCs for friends and family and for fun. I had a ROG Strix 3090, an FE 3090, a Palit, and an MSI Ventus. The Ventus was the best overclocker and the one with the lowest temps in testing. The Strix could go to higher wattages, but doing so it would basically **** the bed.

I don't personally believe the more premium AIBs are worth the extra money. Short of binned Kingpin-like stuff it's highly questionable whether you'll get any better performance or temps.
 
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Halliphax said:
With 43k post count I'm surprised you have to ask - I'd wager a good number of the folk replying to this thread will get one!

Also, thought it was only £2300 when the pound was at it's lowest, isn't it closer to £2000ish?
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I am sure quite a few people on here will be getting a 4090 but I was specifically talking about a Strix. I am getting an FE at £1679 plus a £200 water block. Even I wont touch the Strix this time despite owning a 3090 Strix. I only got that cause it was cheaper than any other 3090 at the time I was buying (FE excluded)

I think the Asus Strix prices are locked in now as they were paid for when the pound was at its lowest.
 
Gypsum Fantastic said:
I've had many, many GPUs over the last several years. I build PCs for friends and family and for fun. I had a ROG Strix 3090, an FE 3090, a Palit, and an MSI Ventus. The Ventus was the best overclocker and the one with the lowest temps in testing. The Strix could go to higher wattages, but doing so it would basically **** the bed.

I don't personally believe the more premium AIBs are worth the extra money. Short of binned Kingpin-like stuff it's highly questionable whether you'll get any better performance or temps.
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Agreed. My 3090 Strix OC was a damp squib and you see many Ventus/TUF/FE cards (none overclocked versions) out performing it. No more AIB high end cards for me.
 
Gibbo said:
How our system works, probably similar for most competitors.

We raise a PO in USD with the rate that day, our system operates 2 cents under live rate for safety, though this could be revised to 5 cents if the volatility remains.

So if we raised a PO today at $1500 for a USD item we'd lock that PO at 1.10 (live rate 1.12)
Then when the delivery lands with us, the goodsin team/system will update the USD to what it is on that day, so if the day stock lands the rate is 1.15, stock will be booked at 1.13, this is then the rate I work of when setting pricing etc on the day of stock landing.

Then we will pay for goods typically 14-60 days later depending on supplier T&C's. As such if the pound crashes, we end paying more for goods, if the pound improves we pay less. Whichever way it swings we have a pot of money called exchange rate variance, some years it makes a profit, some years it makes a loss. Then of course we may be hedging funds, or buying dollars when the FD thinks rate is strong, I am however not privy to this information.

On 3080 launch we got burnt to put it simply, as they launched we sold 1000's and by the time we manage to fulfill orders we were paying much higher pricing due to currency weakening and also because suppliers were generally charging a lot more for them as well. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, in the end it tends to balance out.

Hope that tries to explain things a bit. USD items are high risk especially on GPU's which typically operate on sub 10% margins, as such the margin, all of it and more so can easily be wiped out by a currency downwards trend which unfortunately GBP has pretty much done over the last ten years. 2:1 down to nearly parity.

If GPU's had better margins for resellers like 20% plus then you'd hardly ever see pricing change as when you operate on higher margins your happy for 20% to become 10% for example so can essentially soak it up.

But when your working with 10% or less and the company soaks up several percentage points up for overheads is the reasoning why pricing can be like a YO YO at times, GPU's are time consuming and create a lot of work for the company so of course we want them to make money.
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Do you reckon £1800 will be enough to pick one up? A rough idea
 
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