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Well unfortunately starting to look like I'm going to be priced out of the pc gaming market within the next couple of years, just can't warrant it anymore.
Soldato
Wow so if this is indicative of average performance increase without dlss trickery then my very rough calculations work it out as;
3080fe ($699) to 4080 12gb fe ($899) = 19% performance increase for a 28% cost increase = price/performance regression
3080fe ($699) to 4080 16gb fe ($1199) = 47% performance increase for a 71% cost increase = price/performance regression
Well done Nvidia, well done *slow clap*
3080fe ($699) to 4080 12gb fe ($899) = 19% performance increase for a 28% cost increase = price/performance regression
3080fe ($699) to 4080 16gb fe ($1199) = 47% performance increase for a 71% cost increase = price/performance regression
Well done Nvidia, well done *slow clap*
Soldato
Don't forget chaps the mote you buy the mote you save.
Soldato
Maybe not that much of a difference lol they wanna me the 4090 the king ..
Soldato
Why no
Why not 4k results??Nvidia has released benchmarks for Overwatch 2
This is average FPS at 2560x1440p max settings.
Using the RTX3080 as a base, the rtx4080 12gb is 19% faster than the 3080. The 4080 16gb is 47% faster. And the rtx4090 is 105% faster than the RTX3080
Overwatch 2: GeForce RTX 40 Series GPUs with NVIDIA Reflex reach 360+ FPS, 1440p
New 600 FPS frame rate cap and system latency as low as 8 milliseconds thanks to the unbelievable performance of GeForce RTX graphics cards, and the magic of NVIDIA Reflex.www.nvidia.com
Remember at 4k the gains would be even less for the 4080s as the 192bit and 256bit bus' start to choke as we saw on AMD cards last gen.Nvidia has released benchmarks for Overwatch 2
This is average FPS at 2560x1440p max settings.
Using the RTX3080 as a base, the rtx4080 12gb is 19% faster than the 3080. The 4080 16gb is 47% faster. And the rtx4090 is 105% faster than the RTX3080
Overwatch 2: GeForce RTX 40 Series GPUs with NVIDIA Reflex reach 360+ FPS, 1440p
New 600 FPS frame rate cap and system latency as low as 8 milliseconds thanks to the unbelievable performance of GeForce RTX graphics cards, and the magic of NVIDIA Reflex.www.nvidia.com
Soldato
They seem to not wanna show 4k typical. All res I dont play it .
Caporegime
We can't directly compare these. The big different with the 40x0 cards - and the thing that's really jacked up the price - is the size of the L2 cache. Even the badly named card has 8x the cache of the 3090Ti. That cache makes brute bandwidth less significant.
Soldato
So between 3080 to 4090 is basically price/performance stagnation then?
And a price/performance regression for the rest.
That's got to be a first in the gpu industry?
As a 3080 fe owner I wouldn't even entertain buying a 90 class card.
I normally upgrade when there is around a 50% performance increase for the same price as last purchase. So when I can get 50% performance increase for $699 I'll think about buying.
I'm actually spending less money this way as well as it is taking a lot longer to meet that criteria, so it's actually a bonus for me.
I'm not sure it's other peoples 'narrative' so much as it's Nvidia's narrative.
Soldato
My point was that the only tier to have any positive increase in price/performance is the top card. That's never happened before that I can remember.
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It's nonsense isn't it.
nVidia somehow managed to keep the prices low during the global memory shortage before COVID (remember when RAM prices hit orbit?) but now that crypto is dead after they were used to stupidly high scalping and miner prices, all of a sudden they magically need to bump up the MRSP and fake their lineup by selling a 4070 for 800 quid or whatever?
Have production costs gone up for them? Sure, probably. Have production costs gone up so much that they need to engage in price gouging their own AIBs and deceptive marketing? Nah that's just nVidia trying to keep the yearly earnings in the green for their shareholders now that mining is dead - it's so ******* transparent it physically hurts when people don't see it.
Rant over!
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A quick question and guess it’s more of a what do you think, I am going for the ZOTAC which has 4 cables in to the graphics card. Corsair have a cable for their psus which is a 2 cables one which can handle the full 600w, I’ll be ok to use either right? I could use the Corsair one if/when it comes to the uk.
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The only reason the 4080s are so overpriced for what you get is the vast stock of 30-series NVIDIA still need to sell. That's it. That's the only reason. No Moore's law (dead or otherwise) not L2 cache. Just an overabundance of 30-series they have to make look appealing price-wise or they will never sell.
Get a 4090 if you can afford it, otherwise wait till the backlog of 30-series is sold through. Only then will the price come down to where it should be.
Get a 4090 if you can afford it, otherwise wait till the backlog of 30-series is sold through. Only then will the price come down to where it should be.
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Conversely, fortunate that PC games have enough settings to enable playing new releases on your current hardware for years to come. I get that people want all the resolution, framerate and whatever but that doesn't exactly exlude anyone who can't afford or justify the latest hardware.