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NVIDIA 4000 Series

dave28 said:
Cant wait to see the prices, i think they will go crazy this time and everyone will be in shock
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i dont think they will be, slighter higher yes, but not hugely, theres very few miners still buying, even though the high end buyers will suck up huge increase, the low to middle buyers wont, there little spare money about at the lower end
 
MCFC_ANDY said:
i dont think they will be, slighter higher yes, but not hugely, theres very few miners still buying, even though the high end buyers will suck up huge increase, the low to middle buyers wont, there little spare money about at the lower end
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I think scalpers would buy up all the cards, it is a good opportunity for them to make a pay day.
 
I have got my £500-700 ready for the 3090/ti killer ;) :p :D :cool:

But in all seriousness, these can't come soon enough, a fair amount of RT games out there now that are punishing even for ampere @ 1440p

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Would like to see how intel gpus perform in RT workloads as apparently they have better RT hardware than ampere.
 
Is there any rumours/time frame of when the reveal event for these cards will be? Curious how much of a lead time they will have :)
 
Having money for a rig sat there with stock that can actually be bought but being this close to a release but not having the dates is painful.
My 1080 hybrid is going to have to hold out until the 4080 is out and either intel or AMD release there next toys, it currently sounds like its about to explode once it heats up and i cant find a replacement cooler for it.

That or i could spend thousands on a rig to build over the bank holiday and have buyers remorse next month when something gets announced.

Almost wish there was no stock to tempt me.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Yer, even 40-50% would be considered good.

Interested to see if the gap between 4080 and 4090 is big this time or small like with 3080 and 3090.
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If the 4090 provided a 2x uplift at 4k over the 3090 I would buy it for sure as I am now getting into VR and it is very GPU intensive.

I am expecting to see 50%+ or higher improvements when the reviews hit.
 
JediFragger said:
2x my arse
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2x the fake news and rumoured leaks. Get ready for the usual 20-30% increase as usual. Even the 2080ti to 3080 with double the cuda count was max 30% faster than a 2080ti, just people forget the reality. This time we are not getting a doubling of cuda cores and higher power limits tells you it will not be nowhere near 50% even and if we get 50% it will be the 4090ti not the 4080 or 4090 as we saw this gen and this 3000 gen was supposedly their largest increase in years (take that with a huge pinch of salt).

4080 will be 20-30% max faster than a 3080 and will be on the 103 chip.

4080ti will be same as 4090 minus 3 to 5 % slower and half the VRAM and will be on the 102 chip slightly cut.

4090 will be 30-40% faster than a 3090 and come with 16pin power on standard models and some AIBs with 2 x 16pin power basically silly power use on the AIB OC models. 102 chip slightly cut.

4090ti will be aiming for 50% faster than a 3090 but really 40% faster max than a 3090ti and stupid power use with 2 x 16pin power on the AIB models with OC. 102 chip fully unlocked.


The midrange will see smaller increases as we saw this gen, 4070 will probably be only one aiming for 20-30% increase and ones lower down 3060,3050 will see a max 20% increase if we are lucky.

The main thing Nvidia needs to fix is the VRAM size issues on their 4080 and not do the silly low VRAM again, they only did that on the 3000 series because AMD forced their hand to move up each model one step up, this is why we got a 3080 on GA102 not GA104 so they had to do something to disable it in future games and they knew 10GB was never enough and 12GB should have been the minimum and 16GB for a 3080ti with a £1400 price but it all got messed up by AMD, even the 3090's should not exist they both should have been really the Titan cards 3090= Titan A and 3090ti Titan AP, like the titan x and xp.

I think people are in for a shock when they come out and the power use and price for performance that will make all these rumours look so stupid as we saw with AM5 CPUs and people again were saying 50%-100% increase over AM4.. meeh reality sucks and this is why people live in dream land about 2x the performance ..from gen to gen, them days have been done for decades.
 
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scubes said:
Again 2x faster than the 3090 why they always stuck on 2 x performance disappointing
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Aye, because going from 60fps to 120fps in 4k is really a bit ****, isn't it? :confused:

Its rare that we get anything over 30-40% these days, so not sure where you're getting "why are they always stuck on 2x". 2x the performance would be a massive boost but its unlikely to be remotely near 2x.
 
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If any of the 4000 series are 2X faster it won't be on release, they will drip feed the cards over the next 2 years with with the 4080 and 4080ti with increases in yield and ram speed just like they did with titan X, then a titan XP release after that. no doubt Nvidia will string it out over the time frame from release, board improvements from AIB's power improvements just like the 3000 series have done. as the silicon improves so will the cards in speed and ram speed its the way they all do it not only Nvidia but also the same for AMD.
 
I reckon that X2 uplift will be in Raytracing performance alone as didn't we get a x2 uplift from the 20 to 30 series :confused: , normal rasterization i very much doubt we will be seeing a x2 uplift ( 100% ) but more like a x1.3- x1.5 ( 30%-50% ) at the very best ... would be nice to be proved wrong but i reckon that's where we will land with the 4000 series.
 
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