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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Soldato
A good number of games dont run close to 144fps/1440p which is what my current screen is or 175fps/1440p (next monitor hopefully) with a 6900xt or 3090 so to say that the 4000 series is dead on arrival is complete rubbish based on that metric. If it truly doubles the performance then that is good news and I may upgrade (cost depending) to get said performance. The true problem is these cards need to be at same price as the 3000 FE cards to be considered otherwise its price to performance drops and will wait another generation.
Soldato
If they come out at the above prices then it will be waiting at least another gen for my next upgrade GPU wise.
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looking for a mrp on RTX3070 or RTX4070 never paying the ripoff prices we had this year or last, will just use my new gaming 1080P laptop and 1440P Xbox S, can still play loads of older games at 1440P with i7 6700k rig and a 1050Ti.
Anybody paying the scalping retail prices is a massive sucker, I'm a old gamer see no need for 4K gaming at around £4K prices it's all getting rather silly will be 8K PC gaming soon.
Everybody should wait for 4000 series now, prices on 3000 series is still stupid high, why pay ripoff prices for a old gen card just buy the new gen cards at ripoff prices instead lol.
Anybody paying the scalping retail prices is a massive sucker, I'm a old gamer see no need for 4K gaming at around £4K prices it's all getting rather silly will be 8K PC gaming soon.
Everybody should wait for 4000 series now, prices on 3000 series is still stupid high, why pay ripoff prices for a old gen card just buy the new gen cards at ripoff prices instead lol.
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How much of a difference to your experience would you get if you max out the refresh rate? Is it worth spending £1-2k to get that? Like, how much different is 90-100 vs 144 really?
Soldato
But I am not getting 90-100fps in a lot of games at 1440p on the 6900XT, there a number games that are down around 60fps (not even considering RT in anything with those figures either). So even doubling to get to 120fps would be a noticable improvement for myself. But that assumes as said I can get a card that does that for a similar £900 that I paid for the 6900XT.
Not to mention where you have games that only require 60fps for instance you can not worry about the FPS but lock it so power drawer is lower. This is especially part of the consideration too because of energy costs in UK going so wild (my electric bill in Feburary was double any other month in the last 9 months) and likely only to keep going that way in the near future.
With that I could also sell my 6900XT for £450 no problem by then and the upgrade cost would only be an addtional £450 for myself. As said it all about price to performance and performance to power drawer now.
Soldato
Wonder how those models compare to previous models performance wise, ie does a 4050 beat the older 3070
The rumour is about double performance last I had read/seen so whatever that works out at tbh.
So a 4090 would be twice the performance of the 3090, sounds like a decent upgrade if the case, awaiting reviews
So a 4090 would be twice the performance of the 3090, sounds like a decent upgrade if the case, awaiting reviews
Pretty sure every new gen of cards is allegedly double the performance but it’s been a very long time since they actually were when finally released.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...ly-leaked-up-to-144-streaming-multiprocessors
So, let's speculate..
AD 102 = 4090 24 GB Vram ($3000) / 4080 Ti 12 GB ($2000)
AD 103 = 4080 16 GB ($1200) / 4070 Ti 8 GB ($999)
AD 104 = 4070 12 GB ($799) / 4060 Ti 12 GB ($599)
AD 106 = 4060 8 GB ($499)
AD 107 = 4050 / Ti 8 GB ($299/$399)
so 4080 has more VRAM than 4080ti
Soldato
Indeed, just helping to keep the rumour mill going hey. But yeah seems the last week it stating 1.5x to 2.0x performance as rumour now. Go back to August 2021 and or so and it was 2.0x to 2.5x so yeah usual climb down on big claims but shall see.
Agreed. Some synthetic benchies give the 3080 a 100% extra over my 1080. Even when I got the 1080 it felt like double the 780 in gaming (from 70-80 fps to maxing my 144hz display). It's very high resolutions that the modern cards really shine, since it's the difference from unplayable to decent 60-100fps in 4K. I personally can live without 4K (I do have a 4K display as secondary), but I would like to get a better VR kit since I have a lot of VR games.
Wishful thinking. I'm taking a punt at 30% performance increase across the board, but this will also depend on prices. For example the if the 4080 is £999 and 30% faster than the 3080 and the 4070 is £650 and 5-10% faster than the 3080 I wouldn't call it a 30% upgrade as the 3080 would be getting replaced with the 4070.So a 4090 would be twice the performance of the 3090, sounds like a decent upgrade if the case, awaiting reviews
RTX4000 includes significantly increased cache to catch up with AMD's infinitycache
RTX3090 6mb cache, RTX4090 = 96mb cache
https://www.techpowerup.com/292529/...or-ada-lovelace-to-catch-up-with-amd#comments
RTX3090 6mb cache, RTX4090 = 96mb cache
https://www.techpowerup.com/292529/...or-ada-lovelace-to-catch-up-with-amd#comments
so 4080 has more VRAM than 4080ti
It depends on how they want to cut up the chips but I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of Ampere with some lower end models having more vram than the higher end ones, simply due to the memory config. Given that it's all on TSMC 5nm that means costs go up, up, up, and so they might try to gain back some profit margin by saving on memory config, just like they did for 3060 Ti / 70 / 70 Ti. After all, 8 GB is still largely acceptable by the market, but 6 GB would not be (so they will repeat what they did for 3060 - give it 12 GB), especially since it seems AMD has decided their N33 will also only have 8 GB on a 128bit bus. Considering how AMD looks poised to dominate them this go around with RDNA 3, and Intel's also joining the fray, Nvidia can't just jack up the price too much and hope the consumer demand remains the same. Maybe that worked this generation because it was a mining one, but next go around it will be a pure gaming battle, and things aren't looking so simple anymore.
RDNA 3 vs Lovelace vs Alchemist/Battlemage will be Nvidia's toughest battle yet. I don't think they ever had to worry as much as they do now.
Kinda glad I have a 3090 and not a 6900xt now. I am getting minimum around 60fps in everything at 4k and my choice of game is single player lastest release AAA highest visual fidelity games with all the eye candy turned up. Shocked you're seeing 60fps in some games at 1440p. Bullet dodged I guess.
The 4090 is looking nice, hope I get lucky and can order one at release. I remember it was a nightmare getting a 3090 and I was one of the lucky ones!