NVIDIA 4000 Series

q974739 · 27 Feb 2022 at 16:18

V F said:
Personally I wouldn't mind if electricity and oil wasn't going through the roof.

I kinda want to put together a small machine for the children, or at least start thinking about it. 1080p, etc. A small, low power card - enough, but nothing amazing - but power efficient. At the current rate I might be better off giving them a docked laptop.

Donnie Fisher · 27 Feb 2022 at 17:36

To be honest buy an Xbox series s for kids gaming and a cheap laptop for the rest. Best of both type thing and power consumption is decent spread across both.

I cant see how the ever increasing power consumption is sustainable long term with GPUs.

TNA · 27 Feb 2022 at 20:22

Marak said:
I'll be skipping the 4000 series, sounds like a real power hog and my 3090 is bad enough in that regard. The 3090 eats anything I throw at it right now and the 24GB ram will be more than adequate for the foreseeable future.

I've also found since I did my first ever custom loop that I just don't want to take things out and tinker anymore because it's such a hassle, so the ~£800 cost of the loop looks like it will save me money in the long run.

It won’t be any worse performance per watt than the 3000 series. It will likely be better, they just need all the extra watts to hit the higher performance. Pretty sure cards like the 4070 will have a nice sweet spot where you will get 3090 or thereabouts performance for 200-250 watts for example. My guess anyway.

Marak · 28 Feb 2022 at 01:01

TNA said:
It won’t be any worse performance per watt than the 3000 series. It will likely be better, they just need all the extra watts to hit the higher performance. Pretty sure cards like the 4070 will have a nice sweet spot where you will get 3090 or thereabouts performance for 200-250 watts for example. My guess anyway.

You're probably right there, but at the end of the day it would be cost and hassle for minimal gain. And of course I would be waiting for a waterblock to come out for it as well.

chrcoluk · 28 Feb 2022 at 02:12

MrClippy said:
Rumour is September release date, I've not found anything concrete yet beyond a screengrab of an offer

I guess I should wait for the 4000 series? I have a 1080ti, and I can get a 3080ti.... but why get now when 4000 is coming?

They only just released latest 3000 series models, seems very soon. So people buy those and within about half a year they superseded wow.

Grim5 · 28 Feb 2022 at 04:41

chrcoluk said:
They only just released latest 3000 series models, seems very soon. So people buy those and within about half a year they superseded wow.

that's normal, amd, Nvidia and Intel all do that
None of them have any concern with releasing a new model that will be replaced within 6 months

TNA · 28 Feb 2022 at 08:52

Marak said:
You're probably right there, but at the end of the day it would be cost and hassle for minimal gain. And of course I would be waiting for a waterblock to come out for it as well.

If you have a 3090 then maybe. If you are on a 3070 or even 3080 it will be well worth it imo. You get more performance, more vram, better efficiency, latest tech and new toy. Oh and most importantly if they get it right, much better RT performance

Phixsator · 28 Feb 2022 at 09:34

Grim5 said:
You know the rumours are BS when kopeite comes out and says RTX4090 is a 850w GPU...

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-ada-lovelace-gpus-september-launch-upto-850w-tdp-rumor/

It's total nonsense, you would need LN2 to cool it, no one has ever released such a product which cannot be used with water or air cooling

I'll go out on a limb and say the leaker saw the specs and the 4090 has double the number of cores so he thinks ah ok must be double power draw too

He never said that. He clearly stated it as a rumour and to be frank he doesn't seem to have much faith in it himself. However, I agree 850watts for a consumer card would make no sense.

Tired9 · 28 Feb 2022 at 11:27

850W?

I would call the RTX 3070 the last PC GPU I ever bought, sell up after that and just play consoles.

That's stupidity especially with electric prices rising.. no chance.

Kirby Wurm · 28 Feb 2022 at 11:47

Good thing my case has a space for a second PSU! But agreed, that kind of power draw is nuts, not that I wouldn't bet against the same people that run dual 3090's buying a halo tier card with such requirements, where money is no object.

ltron · 28 Feb 2022 at 12:27

Tired9 said:
850W?

I would call the RTX 3070 the last PC GPU I ever bought, sell up after that and just play consoles.

That's stupidity especially with electric prices rising.. no chance.

Yes, crazy if true and the environmental impact will be bad too. However, AMD are rumoured to have lower power consumption (although still pretty high) so you could go that way.

uncle_rufus · 28 Feb 2022 at 12:34

Maybe time to finally upgrade the 980Ti

(though I'll most likely aim to nab a cheap but new 3000 series card assuming the prices drop a bit once the new series is announced)

Grim5 · 28 Feb 2022 at 12:38

Tired9 said:
850W?

I would call the RTX 3070 the last PC GPU I ever bought, sell up after that and just play consoles.

That's stupidity especially with electric prices rising.. no chance.

Or a laptop

if electricity is your only concern a laptop would be the best option, you'll get better performance than console and use less electricity.

Console is only a good choice if pc hardware is too expensive for you. But if you can afford it but just want to use less electricity and make less heat then a laptop is the right answer

Darujhistan · 28 Feb 2022 at 12:52

Phixsator said:
He never said that. He clearly stated it as a rumour and to be frank he doesn't seem to have much faith in it himself. However, I agree 850watts for a consumer card would make no sense.

I think it's BS.

uncle_rufus · 28 Feb 2022 at 12:59

Decimal point? 85.0W would be pretty amazing though!

Iron Man · 28 Feb 2022 at 14:22

Im just glad I got a 1200 watt power supply two years ago on the off chance that power requirements would be ridiculous.

varkanoid · 28 Feb 2022 at 14:44

chrcoluk said:
They only just released latest 3000 series models, seems very soon. So people buy those and within about half a year they superseded wow.

3000 release was Aug 2020 onwards before that 2000 release was Aug 2018, and so on its nothing new two years will be this Aug onwards.
(BIOS date)

Reason why it feels sooner is because lack of stock has made it seem they only just came out.

Blackjack Davy · 28 Feb 2022 at 15:50

Tired9 said:
850W?

I would call the RTX 3070 the last PC GPU I ever bought, sell up after that and just play consoles.

That's stupidity especially with electric prices rising.. no chance.

Its not even the electricity bill that bothers so much its power consumption == heat production where is it all going to go and especially in summer? Is everyone going to need external rads mounted on the side of the building a la aircon in future?!

Poneros · 2 Mar 2022 at 06:36

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...ly-leaked-up-to-144-streaming-multiprocessors

AD102 12GPC*6TPC*2SM*128FP32=18432
AD103 7GPC*6TPC*2SM*128FP32=10752
AD104 5GPC*6TPC*2SM*128FP32=7680
AD106 3GPC*6TPC*2SM*128FP32=4608
AD107 3GPC*4TPC*2SM*128FP32=3072

(all GPUs have no NVLink)
AD102(72 TPC) - 384bit
AD103(42 TPC) - 256bit
AD104(30 TPC) - 192bit
AD106(18 TPC) - 128bit
AD107(12 TPC) - 128bit

So, let's speculate..
AD 102 = 4090 24 GB Vram ($3000) / 4080 Ti 12 GB ($2000)
AD 103 = 4080 16 GB ($1200) / 4070 Ti 8 GB ($999)
AD 104 = 4070 12 GB ($799) / 4060 Ti 12 GB ($599)
AD 106 = 4060 8 GB ($499)
AD 107 = 4050 / Ti 8 GB ($299/$399)

Shaz12 · 2 Mar 2022 at 06:46

At those prices, I absolutely will have to sell my 3080 Ti to get the 4080 Ti.