NVIDIA 4000 Series

Purgatory · 26 Oct 2022 at 14:45

Slam62 said:
It is a crap design, I bought a deeper case so hopefully ok, I'll find out I guess.

They made sure to add a 4090 most people need at least a new case and new psu and new cables for their psu.

Great business plan for the industry. Make sure when you release something that the rest of the companies in the industry benefit too while creating more E-waste at the same time. :rolleyes:

sparkymark75 · 26 Oct 2022 at 14:59

arknor said:
probably the ugliest and worst designed case in years

Are you going to pivot the nVidia issue to be a Lian Li issue?

How dare people bend a cable!

gpuerrilla · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:00

Rup · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:04

Jay85 said:
You can blame the current economy, exchange rate and VAT on that one. UK just like last time is really getting the short end of the stick again.

Well looking at the trackers, the EU seems to be doing even worse than us.
Might be worth a trip to NY, the 4090 savings would prob pay for the trip

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:05

What a disaster, I'm assuming that the lower tier NV cards won't require this crap connector?

AMD certainly won't be using it...

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Kaapstad · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:18

I see retailers have removed all 4090s from their shelves.

Wait, sorry my mistake it is just the shortage of cards after launch.

brostradamus · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:24

Darujhistan said:
What a disaster, I'm assuming that the lower tier NV cards won't require this crap connector?

AMD certainly won't be using it...

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yeah you dont need that connector for anything lower than 450watts.. i think thats the official spec, though it also depends on BOM cost, i beleive having a single 12VHPWR connector is cost efficient.
regarding amd, herkleman tweeted they wont be using one, but there have been reports that the atx 3.0 spec was actually pushed by both amd and nvidia
so what remains to be seen is if this decision impacts go-to-market timelines for the rdna3

arknor · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:24

sparkymark75 said:
Are you going to pivot the nVidia issue to be a Lian Li issue? How dare people bend a cable!

IT says dont bend it...

Your car probably says don't put sugar in the tank

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:27

brostradamus said:
yeah you dont need that connector for anything lower than 450watts.. i think thats the official spec, though it also depends on BOM cost, i beleive having a single 12VHPWR connector is cost efficient.
regarding amd, herkleman tweeted they wont be using one, but there have been reports that the atx 3.0 spec was actually pushed by both amd and nvidia
so what remains to be seen is if this decision impacts go-to-market timelines for the rdna3

I've heard the 7900XT tops out at 420W, which would tiue in with that. No proof of that though obviously, we'll have to wait and see.

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:28

arknor said:
IT says dont bend it...

Your car probably says don't put sugar in the tank

Copium levels holding up?

sparkymark75 · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:28

arknor said:
IT says dont bend it...

Your car probably says don't put sugar in the tank

A cars tank is designed to hold the fuel that you know it's for. A cable is designed so that it can be bent.

arknor · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:29

sparkymark75 said:
A cars tank is designed to hold the fuel that you know it's for. A cable is designed so that it can be bent.

except when a part of the cable is rigid then it's clearly not supposed to be bent at that point, people use unsuitable cases and force it to an angle it's not designed for.

sparkymark75 · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:33

arknor said:
except when a part of the cable is rigid then it's clearly not supposed to be bent at that point, people use unsuitable cases and force it to an angle it's not designed for.

It's obviously not rigid enough if it can be bent. Make it obvious by putting it in a plastic block rather than some tape.

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:36

arknor said:
except when a part of the cable is rigid then it's clearly not supposed to be bent at that point, people use unsuitable cases and force it to an angle it's not designed for.

So now people have to build an entire system around a terrible connector, but it's not the connector that's the problem?

brostradamus · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:40

i am 95% confident that the atx 3.0 standard is going to be reworked because for consumer markets youd aim for foolproof standards..
so i would suggest delaying psu purchases as long as possible

arknor · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:41

Darujhistan said:
So now people have to build an entire system around a terrible connector, but it's not the connector that's the problem?

building a system around the size of a GPU seems entirely normal

cramming something in a case without clearance or bending the cable seems like user error.

How many OCUK users bought a 4090? and how many had this problem? how many have OCUK sold and how many melted?

Mountain and molehill comes to mind... people making a thing into a big deal for clicks

sparkymark75 · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:50

arknor said:
building a system around the size of a GPU seems entirely normal

cramming something in a case without clearance or bending the cable seems like user error.

How many OCUK users bought a 4090? and how many had this problem? how many have OCUK sold and how many melted?

Mountain and molehill comes to mind... people making a thing into a big deal for clicks

If it was something like a fan stops working then fair enough, but when you have electricity involved and the risk of fire (granted, I've not seen reports of flames, just smoke), then even 1 reported incident should be taken seriously (I'm not saying nVidia aren't taking it seriously).

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:54

arknor said:
building a system around the size of a GPU seems entirely normal

cramming something in a case without clearance or bending the cable seems like user error.

How many OCUK users bought a 4090? and how many had this problem? how many have OCUK sold and how many melted?

Mountain and molehill comes to mind... people making a thing into a big deal for clicks

Really? so where have all the problems associated with cases and bendy connectors that melt and burn been before? Oh right there haven't been any...

This is a newly introduced Nvidia only, 4090 only problem, so what you're saying is it is "user error" by everyone who built a system prior to last month?

How many people did or not did not buy a 4090 is irrelevant to the issue at hand and clear deflection.

Yeah, keep on blaming the "media" in some form or other for everything...more deflection...

arknor · 26 Oct 2022 at 15:59

Darujhistan said:
Really? so where have all the problems associated with cases and bendy connectors that melt and burn been before? Oh right there haven't been any...

there was never a card this big before.... people trying to reuse a case with no clearance or to weird cable management

go bend your kettle plug to an extreme angle and see what happens

Idiots and electricity shouldn't mix

Toasty · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:08

arknor said:
there was never a card this big before.... people trying to reuse a case with no clearance or to weird cable management

go bend your kettle plug to an extreme angle and see what happens

Idiots and electricity shouldn't mix

exactly so this is why by design the plug should be impossible to bend before it’s safe to do so as it’s consumer grade so people can’t be expected to do external reading on the subject on how it differs from the cables they have always used and bent.