NVIDIA 4000 Series

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:08

arknor said:
there was never a card this big before.... people trying to reuse a case with no clearance or to weird cable management

go bend your kettle plug to an extreme angle and see what happens

Idiots and electricity shouldn't mix

People have ben bending cables without issue in PC cases for decades, only now is there a problem because of NV's crap connector and their Mount Doom GPU. That's a fact.

"Idiots and electricity shouldn't mix"

They've definitely been mixing at NV's engineering dept.

Vertigo · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:11

Darujhistan said:
What a disaster, I'm assuming that the lower tier NV cards won't require this crap connector?

I bet they will.

It's obvious that, unlike with their previous connector, this time NVidia are forcing AIBs to use this new one as otherwise some would have stuck with triple 8-pins.

If they're forcing AIBs to use it then I'll bet their plan is to use it across all products.

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:15

Vertigo1 said:
I bet they will.

It's obvious that, unlike with their previous connector, this time NVidia are forcing AIBs to use this new one as otherwise some would have stuck with triple 8-pins.

If they're forcing AIBs to use it then I'll bet their plan is to use it across all products.

Oh dear, I thought this was a consequence of th 4090s insane power requirements, imagine one of these with a 13900k going at full blast!

:cry:

Stu999 · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:15

Darujhistan said:
People have ben bending cables without issue in PC cases for decades, only now is there a problem because of NV's crap connector and their Mount Doom GPU. That's a fact.

"Idiots and electricity shouldn't mix"

They've definitely been mixing at NV's engineering dept.

Isn’t it Intel and the PCI forum’s crap connector?

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:20

Stu999 said:
Isn’t it Intel and the PCI forum’s crap connector?

Who signed off on it for use wityh their product? As a far as the end-user is concerned this is an NV connector for all intents and purposes..

Stu999 · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:26

Darujhistan said:
Who signed off on it for use wityh their product? As a far as the end-user is concerned this is an NV connector for all intents and purposes..

NV is responsible to their customers of course.

Darujhistan · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:28

Stu999 said:
NV is responsible to their customers of course.

There you go then. Same with any failing component in any product, buck stops with brand.

Jay85 · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:29

Rup said:
Well looking at the trackers, the EU seems to be doing even worse than us.
Might be worth a trip to NY, the 4090 savings would prob pay for the trip

4090 prices in HK right now, HKD$14999. If i wasn't skint i'd ask my brother to bring one back with him at the end of the month lol.

Jay85 · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:30

Darujhistan said:
People have ben bending cables without issue in PC cases for decades, only now is there a problem because of NV's crap connector and their Mount Doom GPU. That's a fact.

"Idiots and electricity shouldn't mix"

They've definitely been mixing at NV's engineering dept.

You should see yoga that my ITX cables are doing right now :cry:

Kelt · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:31

Jay85 said:
4090 prices in HK right now, HKD$14999. If i wasn't skint i'd ask my brother to bring one back with him at the end of the month lol.

Why?

That's pretty much the price of a 4090 FE, without the hassle and expense of an RMA when it burns, sending it back to HK.

Jay85 · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:34

Kelt said:
Why?

That's pretty much the price of a 4090 FE, without the hassle and expense of an RMA when it burns, sending it back to HK.

If you can get an FE yes :cry:

. You could literally walk into a store in HK and pick one up off the shelf at none scalped prices. RMA would normally be back to the manufacturer anyway? My old gigabyte card was the same, you just need the invoice for proof of purchase.

Kelt · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:36

Jay85 said:
If you can get an FE yes . You could literally walk into a store in HK and pick one up off the shelf at none scalped prices. RMA would normally be back to the manufacturer anyway? My old gigabyte card was the same, you just need the invoice for proof of purchase.

RMA is the responsibility of the seller, NOT the manufacturer.

So when it blows up, you'd have to send the remains back to HK, that's gonna be expensive!

Jay85 · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:46

Kelt said:
RMA is the responsibility of the seller, NOT the manufacturer.

So when it blows up, you'd have to send the remains back to HK, that's gonna be expensive!

Weird, last time i had this issue i sent it straight back to gigabyte instead. Can't remember exactly why, i'll need to dig the email out again.

Tykey · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:50

Kelt said:
RMA is the responsibility of the seller, NOT the manufacturer.

So when it blows up, you'd have to send the remains back to HK, that's gonna be expensive!

Jay85 said:
Weird, last time i had this issue i sent it straight back to gigabyte instead. Can't remember exactly why, i'll need to dig the email out again.

yeh same here, when i've had a problem i've always been told to contact the manufacturer.

Kelt · 26 Oct 2022 at 16:59

tyke_ said:
yeh same here, when i've had a problem i've always been told to contact the manufacturer.

They're doing that to avoid responsibility, I've had that a couple of times in the past, and had to remind the seller of UK law with regard to this matter.

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I have bought an item from a shop/retailer which is faulty – I have taken it back to the shop but they tell me to go to the manufacturer. Who is responsible for fixing the faulty item?

The answer to this is quite simple – you bought the item from the shop and your contract is with the shop. You do not have a contract with the manufacturer. The shop has the legal liability to fix the item.

Gerard · 26 Oct 2022 at 17:05

arknor said:
there was never a card this big before....

Wrong, there's bigger cards than the FE, pretty sure the 3090tiFE is actually longer than the 4090tiFE.

Jay85 · 26 Oct 2022 at 17:07

Gerard said:
Wrong, there's bigger cards than the FE, pretty sure the 3090tiFE is actually longer than the 4090tiFE.

Yeah it is, its shorted by a few mm but taller/thicker by quite some margin from what i've read of the specs.

Gerard · 26 Oct 2022 at 17:10

Jay85 said:
Yeah it is, its shorted by a few mm but taller/thicker by quite some margin from what i've read of the specs.

Look at the size of the gigabyte aorus and Asus strix, for example. They really went overboard to say the least.

Rup · 26 Oct 2022 at 17:16

Jay85 said:
4090 prices in HK right now, HKD$14999. If i wasn't skint i'd ask my brother to bring one back with him at the end of the month lol.

I think their 5% sales tax prob helps. if you bought that to the UK (and declared it) you'd have to add 20% VAT.

Kelt · 26 Oct 2022 at 17:18

Rup said:
I think their 5% sales tax prob helps. if you bought that to the UK (and declared it) you'd have to add 20% VAT.

Good point.