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NVIDIA 4000 Series


^.. now it's big news on Reddit Nvidia ...


Funny how they all reacted when the same thing I posted day before got down voted and mods there changed it from news to rumour... It was me that told them lol, even named at the bottom of the article.. but now people are upset and big news :cry: because videocardz reposted what I tipped them on..:rolleyes:



Anyways lets hope this makes nvidia aware of how we all think about this situation with the pricing of this generation and spreads more.
£1450 for a 4080 when a 4090 starts at £1699 and has considerably more performance? lol
 
£1450 for a 4080 when a 4090 starts at £1699 and has considerably more performance? lol

Even the £1699 price is now lol too for the 4090 as the £ has recovered and needs a price change down. Before the 3090 was $1500 and we paid £1400, now 4090 is $1600 and we pay £1700 ... The correct UK price for the 4090 FE should be £1493 and not £1700 ..£207 price gouging the UK for the same thing at the recovered £ rate now.
 
£1450 for a 4080 when a 4090 starts at £1699 and has considerably more performance? lol

Yup it's a joke but at the same time not surprising what Nvidia have done tbh given how laughable the price of the 3090 is/was despite only being 10-15% faster than a £650 GPU....
 
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Even the £1699 price is now lol too for the 4090 as the £ has recovered and needs a price change down. Before the 3090 was $1500 and we paid £1400, now 4090 is $1600 and we pay £1700 ... The correct UK price for the 4090 FE should be £1493 and not £1700 ..£207 price gouging the UK for the same thing at the recovered £ rate now.
£1653 you mean? Uk price needs to include VAT at 20%. So £1700 is an expected rounding for the increased logistic costs. Still poo though.
 
Even the £1699 price is now lol too for the 4090 as the £ has recovered and needs a price change down. Before the 3090 was $1500 and we paid £1400, now 4090 is $1600 and we pay £1700 ... The correct UK price for the 4090 FE should be £1493 and not £1700 ..£207 price gouging the UK for the same thing at the recovered £ rate now.
Where are you getting this price from? 1599 is w/o tax.
1599×1.2/1.16=1654.
Cable was 1.3 when Ampere was released.
 
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£1653 you mean? Uk price needs to include VAT at 20%. So £1700 is an expected rounding for the increased logistic costs. Still poo though.
I worked it out at the price the 3090 was set at from $ to £ to the 4090 msrp price the fe price. The price should be now £1493 if the card was released the same time the 3090 was. The £ and $ has not changed that much since the 3090 came out at the current rate it has recovered (price is based on if it came out at same time as 3090 prices). We are being ripped off by £200+ currently.

£1400 / $1500 = 0.933 x $1600 = £1493 .. if they were priced the same as 3090 FE at the time.
 
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Um.. where have you been? The pound has very much crashed since the 3090 came out.
Yes I know.. read above I am pricing it as if it was released at the time 3090 was. Rates have changed but the reality is we are paying £207 more than we did when the 3090 was released. Basically £207 worse off now. Even when the £ has recovered they have not adjusted the pricing down.
 
It hasn't recovered. Based on today's exchange rate the 4090 should cost £1653.252. Rounding up to £1700 is entirely normal given the decrease economies of scale in the UK vs US, not to mention currency volatility.
Correct, I'm looking at it as if they were released at the time the 3090 was and how much more we are now paying extra because of the mess and Nvidia also taking advantage.

£ was at 1.27-1.28 when the 3090 was announced. Sept 2020

£ is now 1.16 and recovering from the original price that was set at 1.07-1.08 Sept 2022 4090 announced, so the £ has gained 0.08-0.09.

Then when it hits 1.27-1.28 as it was when 3090 came out are we all still going to carry on paying £200+ more for the 4090 FE model at MSRP ?

I will not even get into the AIB pricing and the retailer gouging the AIBS as that's another thing altogether as that's customers being silly enough to be taken for a ride there paying £300-500 more than what the AIB MSRP is..


30 series price gouging was a different thing at that time due to mining, shortages, covid, lockdowns, scalping ... etc etc they were not normal times..

We are now back to normal times and the gouging shouldn't even exist now and retailers have become the main scalpers this generation.
 
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Correct, I'm looking at it as if they were released at the time the 3090 was and how much more we are now paying extra because of the mess and Nvidia also taking advantage.

£ was at 1.27-1.28 when the 3090 was announced. Sept 2020

£ is now 1.16 and recovering from the original price that was set at 1.07-1.08 Sept 2022 4090 announced, so the £ has gained 0.08-0.09.

Then when it hits 1.27-1.28 as it was when 3090 came out are we all still going to carry on paying £200+ more for the 4090 FE model at MSRP ?

I will not even get into the AIB pricing and the retailer gouging the AIBS as that's another thing altogether as that's customers being silly enough to be taken for a ride there paying £300-500 more than what the AIB MSRP is..


30 series price gouging was a different thing at that time due to mining, shortages, covid, lockdowns, scalping ... etc etc they were not normal times..

We are now back to normal times and the gouging shouldn't even exist now and retailers have become the main scalpers this generation.

Your facts are wrong.

NVIDIA set the MSRP at £1679 based at a 1.14 rate, when the rate crashed NVIDIA decided it was only fair to re-evaluate the U.K. MSRP as with a rate of 1.09 they were looking at towards £1749-1799 but when the day came to set the new MSRP the pound was recovering and hovering around 1.12 as such the MSRP got a minor tweak to £1699.

The original MSRP of £1679 was set based on a 1.14 rate.

We’re currently at 1.16 so until it recovers further I doubt NVIDIA won’t make any changes until it’s remained stable for sometime above a certain rate.

MSRP is a suggestion and most AIBs now are only shipping OC models as they have better margins.

If the pound recovery continues and supply improves the pricing will drop dramatically for sure but supply is still rather thin at present which is keeping prices high.
 
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If the pound recovery continues and supply improves the pricing will drop dramatically for sure but supply is still rather thin at present which is keeping prices high.

Thanks for the information regarding what actually happened with Nvidia pricing.

The above statement is well a little wrong as there is supply of 4090s even on OCUK the reason they are not selling is the prices of them and other retailers have many models in stock too, not selling because only on day of release they were selling same models at £1699 now wanting £2k+ for exactly the same thing while the £ has recovered more.

The pricing is killing this generation not supply (everyday since release I can find stock of cards), supply is there if you know where to look as a customer, my issues are the pricing this time round, 30 series was another story and really was supply issues and shortages (due to all the issues we all know then), there is no such thing this time, manufactured drip feeding this time and even when stock is there now people are not buying them because of the prices.

I think Nvidias 40 series house of cards is coming down crashing this time if not going up in smoke due to the other issues they are facing too.

Time will tell but not looking good for the 4090 sales at current pricing and the 4080 16GB I wish the retailers luck after the first week trying to sell them at even the FE MSRP, I have already shown the pricing of 4080 16GB Palit GameRocks starting at £1450 and up.. Peoples reactions have said enough and as we all know these prices will go up the minute they are in stock and selling and price adjusted up as they sell. We have all seen this enough now and are all fed up of it.
 
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Thanks for the information regarding what actually happened with Nvidia pricing.

The above statement is well a little wrong as there is supply of 4090s even on OCUK the reason they are not selling is the prices of them and other retailers have many models in stock too, not selling because only on day of release they were selling same models at £1699 now wanting £2k+ for exactly the same thing while the £ has recovered more.

The pricing is killing this generation not supply (everyday since release I can find stock of cards), supply is there if you know where to look as a customer, my issues are the pricing this time round, 30 series was another story and really was supply issues and shortages (due to all the issues we all know then), there is no such thing this time, manufactured drip feeding this time and even when stock is there now people are not buying them because of the prices.

I think Nvidias 40 series house of cards is coming down crashing this time if not going up in smoke due to the other issues they are facing too.

Time will tell but not looking good for the 4090 sales at current pricing and the 4080 16GB I wish the retailers luck after the first week trying to sell them at even the FE MSRP, I have already shown the pricing of 4080 16GB Palit GamRocks starting at £1450 and up.. Peoples reactions have said enough and as we all know these prices will go up the minute they are in stock and selling and price adjusted up as they sell. We have all seen this enough now and are all fed up of it.

They are in stock yes, are they selling? Yes, you presume to know things you simply do not, for all you know we could have 1 in stock or 1000, neither number is true but needless to say we have had several hundred land, am sure the same is true for competitors as well, but they are selling well and based on current sales rates they will all be sold out by Monday/Tuesday, so they are actually selling OK.
 
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They are in stock yes, are they selling? Yes, you presume to know things you simply do not, for all you know we could have 1 in stock or 1000, neither number is true but needless to say we have had several hundred land, am sure the same is true for competitors as well, but they are selling well and based on current sales rates they will all be sold out by Monday/Tuesday, so they are actually selling OK.

FOMO ftw!
 
The pricing is killing this generation not supply
You're forgetting that this is the ultra high-end card though and it can command such prices? Obviously these aren't the big volume sellers but it seems anyways they're in big demand and people are willing to spend. When the 3000-series have been depleted then only then will the prices for the lower cards come down imo, Nvidia have deliberately made the 4000-series to sit on top of the 3000-series stack until this happens.
 
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