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NVIDIA 4000 Series

When it comes to VRAM I think there should always be too much.
That's why they make the Titan and **90 cards for people with such needs or deep pockets such as yourself.

I would be more than happy with 16gb for next gen. Any more is money flushed down the toilet for my needs as far as I am concerned.
 
What is the current rumour of VRAM on the 4070?

At the risk of the repeating the various is "xGB enough for the" threads, if it is 10GB will that be enough? The 1080 Ti was 11GB and if the 4070 is almost twice as fast (as the 3090 is), it really seems like it would be VRAM limited far too soon.
10GB, over a very narrow 160bit bus. Looks like nVidia are going thin and fast to save on costs.
 
They can play whatever name/"tier" games they want. New-gen money should be meaningfully faster than old-gen money.

I just want to know how fast the various price points are, gen over gen.
 

As always these rumours make no logical sense, 66% faster than a 3090ti but 82% faster than a 3090 that is only 5% really slower than a 3090ti at best and 10% faster than a stock 3090 to a 3090ti oc.. Geeze really these rumour people need to cut it out now with the never ending stupidity that makes no sense from items we already have and know the facts about. I don't even get why they bother and they all have changed the specs and performance so many times now they will be right because they have told us every possibility and later cry see we told you while they delete or hide the other things they said.

It's getting old now and boring reading this stuff and when the real items come out they are always a disappointment compared to the so called rumours and inside people that they know telling them this stuff, meeh blaa blaa ..

Getting too old for this now and the people that sit there all day making stuff up for clicks.
 
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As always these rumours make no logical sense, 66% faster than a 3090ti but 82% faster than a 3090 that is only 5% really slower than a 3090ti at best and 10% faster than a stock 3090 to a 3090ti oc.. Geeze really these rumour people need to cut it out now with the never ending stupidity that makes no sense from items we already have and know the facts about. I don't even get why they bother and they all have changed the specs and performance so many times now they will be right because they have told us every possibility and later cry see we told you while they delete or hide the other things they said.

It's getting old now and boring reading this stuff and when the real items come out they are always a disappointment compared to the so called rumours and inside people that they know telling them this stuff, meeh blaa blaa ..

Getting too old for this now and the people that sit their all day making stuff up for clicks.

Percentages are relative, you can calculate it yourself maths isn't hard

Kope says the 4090 scores conservative 19k in TSE. The 3090 gets 10k and 3090ti 11k.

19-11/11, 4090 = 72% faster than 3090ti
19-10/10, 4090 = 90% faster than 3090
11-10/10, 3090ti = 10% faster than 3090


To avoid this confusion for you; a better way to order results by percentages is by setting a baseline.

So you would say the 3090's 10k score = 100%. Then the 3090ti = 110% and 4090 = 190%. See now it's not confusing for old people
 
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Percentages are relative, you can calculate it yourself maths isn't hard

Kope says the 4090 scores conservative 19k in TSE. The 3090 gets 10k and 3090ti 11k.

19-11/11, 4090 = 72% faster than 3090ti
19-10/10, 4090 = 90% faster than 3090
11-10/10, 3090ti = 10% faster than 3090


To avoid this confusion for you; the correct way to order results by percentages is by setting a baseline.

So you would say the 3090's 10k score = 100%. Then the 3090ti = 110% and 4090 = 190%. See now it's not confusing for old people

I know mate, but still don't believe it. Also if any of these performance figures are right then expect a $2500 card.

Also this is another funny today..


Jay is hinting at 4000 series next year not this year.
 
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A year?...

Has to be bollards. Whilst there can be delays, nvidia tend to pump them out after the September reveal. Unless he means the 4070 and below sku's which we know will be 2023 anyway.
 
Sadly it doesn't say much that's useful. The real juice is what's the RT performance like. Granted, I did go and look up TSE & PR results, then performance in games with RT, between 2080 Ti & 3090, and the performance seems to have been correlated with those synthetics. Meaning, a 3090 would be 50-60% faster than a 2080 Ti and then that would translate roughly the same into game results, maybe 10% less in a lighter RT game, but 10% more if it would be heavier. Only in the path-traced titles at 4K did it really go to 60%-80% improvements, but if you turn on DLSS then it actually goes down again. Amusing, but typical of NV, because they had all those RT/Tensor core improvements with Ampere but then cut back on them, presumably for cost, so even though it's more advanced you don't get the same ratio, so ended up meh.

What this is telling me is that basically we can pretty much expect to see a 4090 be 60-70% faster than a 3090. Either way, given the increase in power demands this seems somewhat underwhelming, especially since it seems unlikely they'll go below $1499 (and even that might be overly optimistic). I don't see how this translates into a much better showing for the cards lower down the ranking, particularly the 4070 which has pathetically low memory bandwidth numbers.

Good news for AMD, I guess, if they've done what's needed to minimise the RT performance gap. That will be very interesting to watch.
 
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Went to update Aida64 and spotted this

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Sadly it doesn't say much that's useful. The real juice is what's the RT performance like. Granted, I did go and look up TSE & PR results, then performance in games with RT, between 2080 Ti & 3090, and the performance seems to have been correlated with those synthetics. Meaning, a 3090 would be 50-60% faster than a 2080 Ti and then that would translate roughly the same into game results, maybe 10% less in a lighter RT game, but 10% more if it would be heavier. Only in the path-traced titles at 4K did it really go to 60%-80% improvements, but if you turn on DLSS then it actually goes down again. Amusing, but typical of NV, because they had all those RT/Tensor core improvements with Ampere but then cut back on them, presumably for cost, so even though it's more advanced you don't get the same ratio, so ended up meh.

What this is telling me is that basically we can pretty much expect to see a 4090 be 60-70% faster than a 3090. Either way, given the increase in power demands this seems somewhat underwhelming, especially since it seems unlikely they'll go below $1499 (and even that might be overly optimistic). I don't see how this translates into a much better showing for the cards lower down the ranking, particularly the 4070 which has pathetically low memory bandwidth numbers.

Good news for AMD, I guess, if they've done what's needed to minimise the RT performance gap. That will be very interesting to watch.
I doubt the 4090 will be 40 to 60 percent faster than the 3090
 
3090 is 60% faster than 2080ti in TSE. It averages 45% faster in real games at 4k resolution.

RTX 4090 is 80% faster than stock reference rtx3090 in TSE. So it will probably average 60% faster in real games at 4k resolution.
 
Given the rumoured extra power draw you'd hope the next Nvidia cards are substantially faster. If they aren't many may just hold off for the 5XXX series.
 
Given the rumoured extra power draw you'd hope the next Nvidia cards are substantially faster. If they aren't many may just hold off for the 5XXX series.
60%+ faster will be worth me buying as I just want to pack more mods into Skyrim VR and keep fps above 60fps when I migrate to a better headset. It does amuse me that I am chasing bleeding edge hardware to power a 12 year old game, but imo there really is no gaming experience like SkyrimVR, it's like your own fantasy Westworld. :D
 
60%+ faster will be worth me buying as I just want to pack more mods into Skyrim VR and keep fps above 60fps when I migrate to a better headset. It does amuse me that I am chasing bleeding edge hardware to power a 12 year old game, but imo there really is no gaming experience like SkyrimVR, it's like your own fantasy Westworld. :D
I would say greater than 60% improvement is worth it, especially if you have good reason to upgrade and can afford to, why not ;)
 
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