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NVIDIA 4000 Series

andybird123 said:
3 series have been sitting around a while.
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Also to answer this, top end 3090 series are all sold out and only ones left are the 3090ti FE and the odd 3090 AIB at even more silly prices than a 3090ti FE, 90 series is basically gone. Now they will soon be rid of 3080's next and down, stocks in UK are not as large as people think they are if you watch retailers with 30 series stock. The problem is Nvidia has forced the prices up and played again with card naming, AMD is doing the same too.

Like I said at the start of all this mess, it's become a scam from the manufactures of these devices to the AIBS and the retailers all taking their part of the scam, then go watch the 4090/4080 YouTube reviews and watch how youtubers squirm to keep Nvidia happy, Hardware Unboxed Steve has finally been bought by Nvidia and too scared to lose the free Nvidia cards coming his way as what happened last time when he spoke up, this time the 4090 is amazing value "for a stupid card" while 99.9% of everything he states is positive in the review and .1% ohh yes it's really a stupid card but I want one and you should get one too and DF the full time Nvidia shills and then nobody youtubers this time getting free 4090s and 4080s to sell the scam even more and never seen before youtubers :cry: ... The whole industry now is corrupt and the youtubers are disgusting this time and the review media as they don't have to pay for these things and scared nvidia will stop them getting freebies so play along with nvidia while the real paying people get scammed.

Want this to stop ? Stop buying and stop falling for FOMO for something that is probably not much better in your real world gaming compared to what you currently have. Sorry Andy I agree with you 99% of the time but this time this post is way off and your so called retail prices you have near you.

The greed of these companies is now past the point of being normal and you can't even say anymore well they are a company and trying to please their shareholders, naah sorry this is theft now and unethical business and no one should be feeding these people that run these companies and retailers taking their customers for a ride too.
 
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Purgatory said:
Just a slower card with AMD for the less money due to less performance
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You keep repeating this, but AMD are claiming more frames at a lower price as compared to the 4080. You seem to have this frames-per-pound price-fixing conspiracy theory in your head which is quite amusing, but is not really held up by what AMD are claiming to bring to market in a few weeks, which is 20% less for higher performance...

Clearly we'll see the truth of it in after release, but for now the "OMG both sides" anger seems a little bit misplaced.
 
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Purgatory said:
Ok well this is a UK forums and UK real prices are very different and still don't believe them prices anywhere in the EU or USA/Canada.. Unless you live in some 3rd world country and a store that is liquidating their stock and even then they would get more sticking them on ebay.
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If the 3000 series are all sold out in the UK then there's no reason to hold up the price of the 4080, other countries have had to drop prices to shift stock, so either way prices for the 4080's sitting on shelves will have to drop
obviously I can't link to other shops as even being in a different country I would imagine the same rules apply on the forum

The UK is a small market for nvidia so they aren't going to be concentrating on UK pricing, but if they drop the price globally then that will result in drops in the UK too (as long as UK consumers hold their nerve)
In the US there are tons of 3080's just sitting there, so they are going to have to drop prices to shift the stock, same where I am
 
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Not that anyone cares but I decided to keep the AMP AIRO and not send it back to OcUK. Reading lots of posts and watching some videos and having a few online friends check, they all seem to do the same with the fan noise bar maybe a handful online who say theirs are completely silent. I asked my girlfriend if she could hear it from the sofa to which she said she couldn’t. I got her close to the PC and she didn’t think it was too bad and would prefer it over coil whine. I think it doesn’t help at the moment due to having to have the side panel off and I’m hoping once that’s back on it should dampen it even more.
 
Until the AIB 4090's get close to FE price's, people will wait for an FE to come into stock (even the FE is too expensive). AIB model's with no great advantage over FE models in performance will struggle to sell when up to £500 more expensive. The 4080 is just sitting around, way to expensive and likely to get trounced by the 7900xtx.
Nvidia will no doubt be looking at stock levels and if they wish to sell 4080 cards prior to 7900XTX launch they need to reduce the price. Some AIB 4080's just £50 shy of a 4090 FE no body with a single brain cell would not put the extra £50 to get a 4090 FE if they have that kind of money to spend.
 
andybird123 said:
If the 3000 series are all sold out in the UK then there's no reason to hold up the price of the 4080, other countries have had to drop prices to shift stock, so either way prices for the 4080's sitting on shelves will have to drop
obviously I can't link to other shops as even being in a different country I would imagine the same rules apply on the forum

The UK is a small market for nvidia so they aren't going to be concentrating on UK pricing, but if they drop the price globally then that will result in drops in the UK too (as long as UK consumers hold their nerve)
In the US there are tons of 3080's just sitting there, so they are going to have to drop prices to shift the stock, same where I am
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Generally agree, except that NV will hold the prices high until AMD starts selling a competitor, e.g. 7900XT/X. Why drop the price when NV probably don't have huge stocks (yet) and they can make hay until AMD actually release their cards?

If my guess is right, we'll see a price drop on or soon after the release of the 7900XT/X. If not, then NV have lost the plot, at least in terms of consumer GPU markets.

Don't forget that NV are an immensely successful company, and they're into a lot more than consumer GPU's. Jensen is considered a top notch CEO & technology leader for a very good reason. IMHO they don't need to compete with the likes of AMD on prive vs. performance if they don't want too, even if it does seem a strange choice from a consumer perspective.

PS: Haven't owned NV for years as they haven't hit the price/perf that I favour, so I won't be buying into their "image". I'll buy best price vs. perf (raster & upscaled) and then judge new tech like RT as a nice to have.
 
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Hostile_18 said:
On my Rog Strix B650 Motherboard, does this mean I'm running my games at PCIe gen 1!? or am I getting confused lol.

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That's when it is under no stress and normal desktop use, stress the gpu and watch it go up. The PCIe bus speed can go up and down on some motherboards/gpus to save power. Yours seems to be sat at Pcie 4.0 @ 16x which is full pcie 4.0 spec @ 16x lanes. There is a setting in windows power saving plan that can reduce the pcie speeds when not stressed too.


Nothing to worry about if it goes up and down, seen some setups even drop the pcie spec down too to save power or shut off lanes. Normal power saving behaviour, overclockers turn all these things off for benchmark runs.
 
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So my order from yesterday seems to be stuck!! Ordered before 2pm expecting the Haribo to land today..... Doesn't look like its been picked yet....
 
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