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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Why
chrcoluk said:
AIBs did a lot of damage during Ampere with their huge mark ups, Nvidia also lost trust in them due to the way they were selling to miners which is why LHR cards were initially limited to AIBs and not FE. Even HUB noticed this, and he said himself he looked at the MSRP from AIBS going up and up and up and up every few weeks, as people were solely blaming retailers and Nvidia/AMD with AIBs considered saints.

However Nvidia do need the AIBs for their reach into the market so I think the launch will of course include AIBs.
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I'm probably being think, but why do nVidia need AIBs? Really? It's their chip, there's nothing stopping them coming out with a range of coolers and clock speeds at various price points if they need to.
 
Bill Turnip said:
Why

I'm probably being think, but why do nVidia need AIBs? Really? It's their chip, there's nothing stopping them coming out with a range of coolers and clock speeds at various price points if they need to.
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Old marketing tool to increase marketshare.

If NVidia and AMD were just producing reference cards and both had 50% of the market. One way for NVidia to sell more cards would be to allow AIB partners to also sell their chip based cards in non reference SKUs.

This would take some sales away from NVidia's reference cards but it would also take some sales away from AMDs reference cards but overall NVidia would sell more cards.

Having said that AMD would also do the same with AIB partners to compete.
 
I think right now is a good time to get the 3000 series but as for the 4000 the water is muddy right now.

Thing is that the economy is almost in freefall and who knows what the future will be for people wanting to buy graphics cards and what NVIDIA will price the new series at. There is also the fact that energy prices are going through the roof and this will undoubtedly make people think twice about buy a card that the reviews mark as "power hungry" ( not to mention that a large number of people will not be able to justify the coast of a card right now ). All in all I really wouldn't like to say what's going to happen in the next three months. Personally I think if you can afford a 3000 now it's probably the thing to do. Me, I am going to wait to see what the 4000 are like because I don't need to upgrade at all.
 
SpellowHouse said:
I think right now is a good time to get the 3000 series but as for the 4000 the water is muddy right now.

Thing is that the economy is almost in freefall and who knows what the future will be for people wanting to buy graphics cards and what NVIDIA will price the new series at. There is also the fact that energy prices are going through the roof and this will undoubtedly make people think twice about buy a card that the reviews mark as "power hungry" ( not to mention that a large number of people will not be able to justify the coast of a card right now ). All in all I really wouldn't like to say what's going to happen in the next three months. Personally I think if you can afford a 3000 now it's probably the thing to do. Me, I am going to wait to see what the 4000 are like because I don't need to upgrade at all.
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Looking at the energy calculations, cost to run isn't a factor. Heat could be and availability. I don't see prices rising too much. I wouldn't buy any of the higher end right now.
 
chrcoluk said:
AIBs did a lot of damage during Ampere with their huge mark ups, Nvidia also lost trust in them due to the way they were selling to miners which is why LHR cards were initially limited to AIBs and not FE. Even HUB noticed this, and he said himself he looked at the MSRP from AIBS going up and up and up and up every few weeks, as people were solely blaming retailers and Nvidia/AMD with AIBs considered saints.

However Nvidia do need the AIBs for their reach into the market so I think the launch will of course include AIBs.
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but it was okay for Nvidia to sell to miners and lie about it? you know they got fined by SEC rgith for misleading shareholders ?
 
Exciting times!

After 19mths, and one 3080FE purchase later, I've just received an Email from EVGA this morning, telling me that I've finally moved up sufficiently in the pre-order queue and I'm able to place an order for 3000 series card...Thanks EVGA, you're great!

..where do I sign up for the 4000 cards. :D
 
Bill Turnip said:
I agree, but you would think that if it was worth their while, it would have been sorted ages ago. It leads to the question whether the UK market is worth it for AMD reference? Just send the chip to aibs and let them deal with the brexit importing issues.

Could harm them reputation ally in the long run, but the financial impact might not be massive in the short term.
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I suspect it's being inept rather than an oversight or not being worth it. Few of my gaming/video editing friends would consider an AMD CPU or GPU and I think much of the blame for this lands squarely at the door of AMD's invisible UK marketing and under the radar approach. Anything to improve it would help yet their marketing department seems to think empty promises ('overclockers dream', 'Poor Volta' ) are a good way to approach things. Nvidia's PR/Marketing has always eclipsed AMD's as has Intel's although as they are the smaller of the three so I understand there may be/have been financial constraints.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
videocardz.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 & RTX 4070 get preliminary 3DMark performance estimates - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA RTX 4090/4080/4070 3DMark performance Hardware leaker Kopite7kimi now claims to know the performance of upcoming GeForce RTX 40 series. According to the user, RTX 4080 and RTX 4070 would both score higher than 10K in 3DMark TimeSpy Extreme test. This is a report following RTX 4090...
videocardz.com videocardz.com

RTX 4070 is on par to RTX 3090
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No surprise there then, assuming this is legit. The question is how does the RT performance compare?
 
Cooper said:
Exciting times!

After 19mths, and one 3080FE purchase later, I've just received an Email from EVGA this morning, telling me that I've finally moved up sufficiently in the pre-order queue and I'm able to place an order for 3000 series card...Thanks EVGA, you're great!

..where do I sign up for the 4000 cards. :D
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Thought EVGA abandoned the UK market!
 
Cooper said:
Exciting times!

After 19mths, and one 3080FE purchase later, I've just received an Email from EVGA this morning, telling me that I've finally moved up sufficiently in the pre-order queue and I'm able to place an order for 3000 series card...Thanks EVGA, you're great!

..where do I sign up for the 4000 cards. :D
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Haha I also got an email today, it told me they are ditching the queue as apparently they now have enough stock to fully fulfil demand (right at the end of life for Ampere).

So in short I got kicked out of the queue lol.
 
chrcoluk said:
Haha I also got an email today, it told me they are ditching the queue as apparently they now have enough stock to fully fulfil demand (right at the end of life for Ampere).

So in short I got kicked out of the queue lol.
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Just goes to show the queue never was legit. They never tried to fulfil it as they sold the cards for a lot more than pre-order prices elsewhere.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
videocardz.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 & RTX 4070 get preliminary 3DMark performance estimates - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA RTX 4090/4080/4070 3DMark performance Hardware leaker Kopite7kimi now claims to know the performance of upcoming GeForce RTX 40 series. According to the user, RTX 4080 and RTX 4070 would both score higher than 10K in 3DMark TimeSpy Extreme test. This is a report following RTX 4090...
videocardz.com videocardz.com

RTX 4070 is on par to RTX 3090
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nonsense....

I wait till the 4000 is released then officially benched vs the 3090.
 
chrcoluk said:
Haha I also got an email today, it told me they are ditching the queue as apparently they now have enough stock to fully fulfil demand (right at the end of life for Ampere).

So in short I got kicked out of the queue lol.
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Yes this is correct, I got the mail and it said that they are stopping the queue and offering normal sales instead.
 
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