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NVIDIA 4000 Series

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Divisive RTX 4070 Ti reportedly leads the GPU sales race on Mindfactory

The GeForce RTX 4070 Ti is allegedly dominating the GPU sales at the German retail outlet Mindfactory during the ongoing week. Additionally, midrange boards like the RTX 3060, the RX 6700 XT, and the RX 6600 are also moving quite well. When it comes to sales of current-gen flagships, the RX 7900...
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Can someone look into the possibility of unlocking the 4070ti thread?
 
brostradamus said:
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Divisive RTX 4070 Ti reportedly leads the GPU sales race on Mindfactory

The GeForce RTX 4070 Ti is allegedly dominating the GPU sales at the German retail outlet Mindfactory during the ongoing week. Additionally, midrange boards like the RTX 3060, the RX 6700 XT, and the RX 6600 are also moving quite well. When it comes to sales of current-gen flagships, the RX 7900...
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Can someone look into the possibility of unlocking the 4070ti thread?
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Contact the mods?
 
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Bencher said:
Yeah 4080 is too close to the sun (4090). A great card nonetheless but weirdly positioned
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The absurd price of the 3090 is the only thing that made the 4090 seem like better value (between 4080/4090). I'm not knocking the cards as they are great, just the pricing is horrible. Sadly, people buying them are giving a signal to the GPU giants that it's acceptable. I can only see the next generation of cards dropping in price if people are largely priced out due to energy prices and inflation.

https://youtu.be/dLjQR0UFUd0?t=1030 - 2080 vs 1080 29% gain (£100 more expensive)

https://youtu.be/csSmiaR3RVE?t=1637 - 3080 vs 2080 47% gain 1440p, 68% gain 4K (same price)

4080 vs 3080 = 50% more performance, 70% more expensive. 50% gain at both 1440p and 4K
Used Hardware Unboxed reviews as reference. Wider selection of games will show a different picture but none of them will be able to make 4000 series cards look good at these prices. AMD have went down this route also, bad news.
 
J.D said:
The absurd price of the 3090 is the only thing that made the 4090 seem like better value (between 4080/4090). I'm not knocking the cards as they are great, just the pricing is horrible. Sadly, people buying them are giving a signal to the GPU giants that it's acceptable. I can only see the next generation of cards dropping in price if people are largely priced out due to energy prices and inflation.

https://youtu.be/dLjQR0UFUd0?t=1030 - 2080 vs 1080 29% gain (£100 more expensive)

https://youtu.be/csSmiaR3RVE?t=1637 - 3080 vs 2080 47% gain 1440p, 68% gain 4K (same price)

4080 vs 3080 = 50% more performance, 70% more expensive. 50% gain at both 1440p and 4K
Used Hardware Unboxed reviews as reference. Wider selection of games will show a different picture but none of them will be able to make 4000 series cards look good at these prices. AMD have went down this route also, bad news.
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Comparing the 3080 to anything is basically punishing nvidia for releasing an insanely good and reasonably priced card. The 3080 was worth a lot more than the original 699 msrp.
 
Bencher said:
Comparing the 3080 to anything is basically punishing nvidia for releasing an insanely good and reasonably priced card. The 3080 was worth a lot more than the original 699 msrp.
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Yes, they gave more than the usual 30% bump at same price but it still exists so it will be included. It still takes nothing away from the 4080 being 50% more powerful at 70% more in outlay. There's not a man alive that can make that reasonable. Take away the generational 30% (roughly) uplift you're paying £400 *£500 extra for 20%.
 
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J.D said:
Yes, they gave more than the usual 30% bump at same price but it still exists so it will be included. It still takes nothing away from the 4080 being 50% more powerful at 70% more in outlay. There's not a man alive that can make that reasonable. Take away the generational 30% (roughly) uplift you're paying £400 *£500 extra for 20%.
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Well think about it this way, if 3080 followed the trend (30%.faster than the 2080)then the 4070ti would be what, 40% faster than the hypothetical 3080? Nobody would be complaining about that, right? 40% is a very decent uplift
 
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Bencher said:
Well think about it this way, if 3080 followed the trend (30%.faster than the 2080)then the 4070ti would be what, 40% faster than the hypothetical 3080? Nobody would be complaining about that, right? 40% is a very decent uplift
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4070ti is slightly less than 30% faster (small gaming benchmark example) at £100 more so is more in line with a class to class uplift and reasonable. I previously agreed with you that it's the best valued 4000 series card so far. My point was class to class basing from generational uplift but it's a good point you've made. I'm just looking at the numbers and think it's a bit of a rip-off with a new price level being born. Especially so if a 5080 will remain at £1200 with the back to normal 30% uplift. That might become the new price bracket for x080 cards.
 
Grim5 said:
Despite every reviewers outrage, the 4070ti is the best selling GPU in Germany

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Divisive RTX 4070 Ti reportedly leads the GPU sales race on Mindfactory

The GeForce RTX 4070 Ti is allegedly dominating the GPU sales at the German retail outlet Mindfactory during the ongoing week. Additionally, midrange boards like the RTX 3060, the RX 6700 XT, and the RX 6600 are also moving quite well. When it comes to sales of current-gen flagships, the RX 7900...
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Are these sales numbers good? I can't find any point of reference to compare them to.
 
Grim5 said:
Who knows, the vast majority of retailers never release sales numbers because they are scared their competitors find out
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Well, I must confess I was just being lazy. Had a bit more of a look around and it turns out someone's been collating this data from Mindfactory for a while. These are the numbers from this time last year:

Radeon Top 5 Selling Brand Line

  1. RX 6600XT = 530 units
  2. RX 6600 = 230 units.
  3. RX 6900XT = 190 units.
  4. RX 6700XT = 130 units.
  5. RX 6800XT = 110 units.
Nvidia Top 5 Selling Brand Lines

  1. RTX 3070 TI = 580 units.
  2. RTX 3060 TI = 400 units.
  3. RTX 3060 = 330 units.
  4. RTX 3080 = 305 units.
  5. RTX 3090 = 160 units.
 
Speaking of terrible value.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti expected to offer RTX 3070 performance for less than $500​


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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti expected to offer RTX 3070 performance for less than $500 - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX 4060 Ti rumors Pricing and performance rumors for NVIDIA’s new mid-range GPU begin to surface. MyDrivers citing their sources claim that the upcoming GeForce RTX 4060 Ti will cost less than $500. This would be the cheapest RTX 40 desktop GPU to be released thus far, but still not...
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Cosmic Schwung said:
Well, I must confess I was just being lazy. Had a bit more of a look around and it turns out someone's been collating this data from Mindfactory for a while. These are the numbers from this time last year:

Radeon Top 5 Selling Brand Line

  1. RX 6600XT = 530 units
  2. RX 6600 = 230 units.
  3. RX 6900XT = 190 units.
  4. RX 6700XT = 130 units.
  5. RX 6800XT = 110 units.
Nvidia Top 5 Selling Brand Lines

  1. RTX 3070 TI = 580 units.
  2. RTX 3060 TI = 400 units.
  3. RTX 3060 = 330 units.
  4. RTX 3080 = 305 units.
  5. RTX 3090 = 160 units.
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Pretty good perf for 4070ti after adjusting for crypto, assuming the market was still driving expansion.
Another interesting observation is that the 4070 ti seems to have practically replaced the 3080+ tiers
 
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