This statement makes no sense. The 4090 is subjectively "worth it" if you need 4090 performance (4k120 and VR gaming) because there is nothing else that comes close.
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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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I'm sure we are not going to make the mistake of extrapolating from our own experience to say that it was the experience of the general GPU buying populace at large!As I recall there were a lot more 3080 drops closer to launch. After 6 months if I remember correctly there were not as many drops for them. So could be if you and your mates missed out early on things got much harder.
I got one the first time I tried as I recall, maybe second at worst
I have the viewpoint of dealing regular with the 'normal' man on the street and most of them aren't sad lonely people like us that spend their days ̶a̶r̶g̶u̶i̶n̶g̶ conversing with blokes on internet forums. ("Speak for yourself" I hear you say!
)I am sure all 100 people in the world that need those things will give a thumbs up but for 99.9% of us it remains a card awaiting a gaming application and faster CPU's.
By the time all these things are with us, the 5090 will probably be on sale or, at least a 4090ti.
No, we really need a system seller for the 4090, we don't have one, yet. All we have are updates to games that are gimped to need a 4090.
That's not to say a new game won't appear in 2023 which makes everyone empty their wallets but, Covid delays mean the 4090 arrived a year before the games did.
The 4090 remains the IPad Pro of the GPU world, its at least a generation ahead of the software.
I've got my eye on the £799 model - I can see in the range from £799 to £859 that there are 6 cards. From experience here is there model amongst them it is felt I would be better off going for in terms of reliability and support (the 6 are Inno3D(x2)/Gainward/Zotac/Palet/Asus). The Zotac stands out with a 5 year warranty, Asus 3 the rest 2. Thanks
The 4090 is 70% faster than a 4070ti in raster and 84% faster in RT for +100% more money which is pretty good when you factor in that halo cards generally have much worse price to performance.
The 3090 was only around 35% faster than a 3070ti while costing 167% more money.
I don't get this, the games have been gimped? If you have a 4k 144hz monitor which way more than 100 people in the world have then the 4090 is the only card that comes close to fulfilling that demand on general modern games. I have such a monitor and a 4090 and at a complete guess id say the games I play, which are usually not the most modern, average at 110-130fps, so it's not ahead of the times. If you have the budget it's the best choice by far.
Such a shame because the 4000 series is in my opinion, an amazing product. The reason I bought AMD last gen was due to efficiency, I couldn't ignore how Nvidia needed so much more power to achieve the same level of performance or similar. This time Nvidia has everything, performance, drivers (yes after having both for years, I think Nvidia has better drivers), and amazing efficiency. Only for it to be expensive as hell compare to previous generations.
The performance is good at the high end but tails off fast the lower you go, Nvidia is effectively selling 70 class die as 80 and 60 class die as 70 so the performance jump on those cards is actually less than the 3000 series got on a much smaller node jump.
That wouldnt really be an issue if the pricing better, but I guess they know they have a good product and Jensen decided to scalp his own cards. After what happened with the 30 series, we are to blame. I bought a 3080 at MSRP and sold it shortly after to get a 6900XT, but the amount of people paying 2k for a 3080 was insane, let alone the 3090 prices. Now that I think about it, my 3080 FTW3 would be a unicorn now lol
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I'm sure we are not going to make the mistake of extrapolating from our own experience to say that it was the experience of the general GPU buying populace at large!
I have the viewpoint of dealing regular with the 'normal' man on the street and most of them aren't sad lonely people like us that spend their days ̶a̶r̶g̶u̶i̶n̶g̶ conversing with blokes on internet forums. ("Speak for yourself" I hear you say!
You hear correctly
:The Inno3d 4070ti model has a confirmed water-block from Alphacool.
I am sure there will be other blocks done but it might help with resale even if you are buying for air.
Well, looking at benchmark vids of Forspoken running on 4090s with 13900k's today, it seems 70 fps is more the mark! Wouldn't mind so much but it looks like a PS3 title in places.
Modern PC gaming is a mess. The pricing situation is just more fuel on that fire.
no need to optimise your pos game just demand £5k system to run it at a middling fps
Weird. Maybe the game is much better optimised on AMD hardware as LtMatt is getting 88 average FPS on his 7900 XTX.
Defo does look like a PS3 at times. Terribly optimised game from what I can see.
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Looking at benchmarks for a small selection of crappily optimized game and basing assumptions on that? Umm, ok...
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Is that at 4K max settings without FSR/DLSS? I get around 65FPS on the 7900 XTX Running the built in benchmark.
I've sold my 4090 now but would have liked to have tested it myself if I still had it.
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This isn't even a test-worthy game
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Developers lacking the requisite cerebral capacity should just get the unreal engine or maybe beg for a doom eternal port. Dx12/vulkan isn't exactly the kind of stuff you could approach without a proper talent mix
Luminous Engine - Wikipedia
Developers lacking the requisite cerebral capacity should just get the unreal engine or maybe beg for a doom eternal port. Dx12/vulkan isn't exactly the kind of stuff you could approach without a proper talent mix
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PC gaming is imo in an amazing place if you look at what it is capable of. It has such a rich and amazing back catalogue of titles that can be had for VERY cheap prices (steam key sites) that thanks to the latest hardware we can bump up to max detail settings at high frames.
When you factor in modding there is im simply no replacement for the PC. It is unique.
Soldato
Probably is better optimised for AMD hardware in general seeing as consoles are using AMD hardware in them.... does that excuse the system requirements being stupid and the quality nowhere near good enough... nope.