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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Any one else feeling short changed with v ram ?
I got optimistic seing a 550 dollar pricepoint on the 5070, then saw it was only 12gb :rolleyes:
16gb should be minimum on this series IMO, and to get that the entry is a 5070 Ti -£750 card (if converting dollars to GBP which is normally how it works).
To me, just seems more of a rip off than ever, I think I will pass if those prices are what they end up at.
 
Personality+ said:
I want to play Alan Wake 2 abandoned it on 4090.

Will play Indiana Jones

otherwise the aim is to hit 480hz in many games if MFG helps and native is 240hz+ I think it'll be lovely.
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You saying it didnt run on a 4090? I’m running Indy at 4k all high settings 60 fps on 6800XT, plenty smooth and looks good, a mild improvement in graphics (one that you can’t really tell when playing), wont make the game any better…….. you dont need 480hrz either.

Again essential vs ‘nice to have’ but in your case, 480hrz is overkill, if you want overkill, ok, just doesnt seem essential, unless you have unlimited money, in which case thats fine.
 
Capitano said:
more and morepeople own 4k monitors these days with higher refresh rates, so thats probably the reason why people are looking to upgrade
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Again these to me are just none logical justification, looking for reasons to upgrade, rather than thinking about it scientifically. I have a 6800XT that plays all games absolutely fine, 99% of which in high or ultra settings smoothly, I have a 144hrz variable refresh screen, so if it goes to 48 fps thats fine as the screen refresh changes so no tearing.

Very much in my ‘reality’ phase vs what i think is ‘needed’ emotionally.

If someone gave me a 5090 id have it, wouldn’t make ANY difference in the games i play though, would run smooth, vs abit more smooth but still an identical game.
 
1988-DD-1988 said:
Will overclockers be stocking the AORUS GeForce RTX 5090 MASTER ICE 32G @Gibbo its nice to see a white card available at the start of a launch this time round
2000
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Thats what I need to keep my white system!
 
Combat squirrel said:
You saying it didnt run on a 4090? I’m running Indy at 4k all high settings 60 fps on 6800XT, plenty smooth and looks good, a mild improvement in graphics (one that you can’t really tell when playing), wont make the game any better…….. you dont need 480hrz either.

Again essential vs ‘nice to have’ but in your case, 480hrz is overkill, if you want overkill, ok, just doesnt seem essential, unless you have unlimited money, in which case thats fine.
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No I'm saying it ran, but not as well as I wanted it to natively, and it turns out even the 5090 will struggle natively.. but it's on my list of games to play I missed.

I do need 480Hz - anyone who has actually had that motion clarity in front of them will understand, doesn't mean I'll get that in every game, but I'm pretty sure with MFG it'll open up a lot more single player and MP games to me, to hit that number. Obviously if it's not that great I'll be the first to mention it :) I think If I'm hitting 200fps natively then MFG will feel great. And if I'm lucky a bunch of games will hit 480hz natively or be engine capped.

sub 100fps... probably not so much, but I'll try it myself to know for sure.
 
Combat squirrel said:
So is anyone actually buying these new cards? What games do you play day in day out that you can’t run at all or barely run ?
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I upgrade every generation as I want more RT performance mainly. While the 4090 is very fast, it's not fast enough for games that are starting to use path tracing as I want at least 120fps maxed out at 4K with path tracing, the 4090 even with frame generation and DLSS on quality doesn't come close to reaching that. Multi frame generation should pretty much solve that.

Alan Wake 2 (haven't finished the two DLC's) and Indiana Jones are the main two I'm looking forward to seeing what the 5090 can do.
 
Raiden85 said:
I upgrade every generation as I want more RT performance mainly. While the 4090 is very fast, it's not fast enough for games that are starting to use path tracing as I want at least 120fps maxed out at 4K with path tracing, the 4090 even with frame generation and DLSS on quality doesn't come close to reaching that. Multi frame generation should pretty much solve that.
Marilyn
Alan Wake 2 (haven't finished the two DLC's) and Indiana Jones are the main two I'm looking forward to seeing what the 5090 can do.
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So your playing these games primarily because they have RT and PT?
 
If thats what you want, thats what you want i guess guys, it wont make the game any better though - runs amazing on my 6800xt, i dont think any game is worth over 2 grand though, just for the GPU - at the end of the day the GPU just runs it, a GPU is useless without anything to run on it.

I get the upgrade itch, but it’s just not needed, or essential. The only game id pay 2 grand for is the 1 I’ve played for 15 years every few days and that runs just fine at 144hrz, 144fps on my monitor.

Saying 100 fps isn’t enough is just madness.
 
mahius said:
For everyone getting too excited and hyped up about these new cards. On the plus side, the size of the cards is great, finally normal sized GPUs.
Just keep in mind that Nvidia are doing the typical nonsense of not talking about raw performance and using framegen to cover up true performance.
This should be common sense, but Jensen's claim of a 5070 getting close to a 4090 is a load of nonsense. Plus it's still half the VRAM.
Most likely he probably meant with DLSS4 multi-frame gen fake frames a 5070 can get close to a regular 4090 without DLSS.

And a video of DLSS4 was taken down, which showed a lot of artifcating and issues on those generated fake frames.
AI is still AI quality, not a replacement for real things, just a terrible imitation.
The low VRAM is still a let down. AMD could potentially have an opportunity depending on how they price their 9070XT.
Given the 5070's price, a 9070XT shouldn't be more than £450 or even £400.
But first they need to just turn up to the damn race for a start.

My bet, it's probably not worth going for one of these Nvidia GPUs at release.
If they have potential Supers on the horizon, with more VRAM, they could be worthwhile.
Otherwise, I'll hold my judgement till I see genuine benchmarks in reviews.

Long story short: wait for impartial reviews for the actual performance numbers.
Given the decent pricing, my bet is that the actual true performance increase is closer to 20% for each tier.
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Totally agree

20% increase on each tier max

AI is fake and worthless on some games
 
Awww no crumbs for the lower end yet (5060/ti).

At least the pricing of the 5070 gives me hope the 60ti will be around the same price as the 4060ti, then my 1070ti can finally retire.
 
VIPER258 said:
So your playing these games primarily because they have RT and PT?
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No, I play them because I like them, they just happen to have RT and I want a much higher frame rate than what the 4090 can provide, and I'm not reducing settings to achieve it. With GTA 6 out one day, I'd bet on that having DLSS and frame gen by then as well. 6090 will probably be out by the time PC players get to play it though :(
 
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