Raw performance is clearly not as important as it used to be. A 5080 will give an overall better experience than a 4090 once you switch on that 4x frame gen. The difference between 2x and 4x frame gen latency will be virtually nothing. A lot depends on what games a potential buyer of a used 4090 will want to play but I'm guessing they're not buying a 4090 to play counter strike.
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sadly prices like that are still insane
This is easy to calculate with a few minutes of looking and doing calculations.
I'm going to use TPU's aggerate data for this and Nvidia's latest benchmarks and I'm only looking at 4k performance, lower resolutions is difficult to predict based on Nvidia's released benchmarks due to CPU overhead and you'll need to wait for reviews.
4K Results from Techpowerup, this is the average frame rate over a wide range of titles tested.
RTX4090: 152fps
RTX4080: 121fps
RTX4070ti: 98fps
RTX4070: 73fps
Now we add the new performance for RTX5000 as appears in today's official Nvidia benchmarks.
RTX5090: 152fps * 30% extra = 197fps
RTX5080: 121fps * 15% extra = 139fps
RTX5070ti: 98fps * 20% extra = 117fps
RTX5070: 73fps * 20% extra = 87fps
Then we add price:
RTX5090: $1999
RTX4090: $1599
RTX5080: $999
RTX5070ti: $749
RTX5070: $549
Now we divide the average performance by the price:
RTX5090: 197fps / $1999 = 0.09 frames per Dollar
RTX4090: 152fps / $1599 = 0.09 frames per Dollar
RTX5080: 139fps/ $999 = 0.13 frames per Dollar
RTX5070ti: 117fps / $749 = 0.15 frames per Dollar
RTX5070: 87fps / $549 = 0.15 frames per Dollar
In Summary:
The RTX 5070 and 5070ti are both equally the sweet spot for price per performance, so it doesn't matter which you choose, however given the price per frame is the same, I think the 5070ti wins because it has more VRAM for free basically.
The next best for price to performance is the RTX 5080 and then the RTX 4090 and RTX 5090 have the same price to performance.
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I doubt it's going to be called the RTX 6000 series, there's already a card called RTX 6000, but built on Ada. They'll probably skip to 7000 or drop the whole RTX shtick and call it something else. Maybe AIX to capitalize on the AI gold rush. The AIX 1090 will no longer have raster or real frames, and will instead hallucinate all your frames for you directly into your brain (with unskippable ad frames).
cant wait for actual proper like for like benches vs the 4090, just by looking at the 4090 numbers I can already see the 4090 will be way ahead of the 5080, its the cores that do all the hard work and the 5080 wont be ahead, I think the prices for the 4090 will stay on point until the 6090 come in to view
well my colleague sold his Suprim 4090 for 1450 and it was only 8 months old, he provided the OG invoice for warranty purposes and it was snapped in the 30 mins, on average they go used for 1500ish, I dont think they will go lower because when the true benches gets published it will shy away from the 5090 by 10-15% max, that about sums it up in terms of price, 1500 for a 24GB 4090 or 2400 for a 32GB 5090....
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True. It was same thing happened with RTX 2000, people like me paid premium to experienced hardware ray tracing on RTX 2080 for first time.
I will do the same thing again with RTX 5080 to experienced new 4th gen ray tracing, path tracing hardware and try out cool RTX Neural Materials, RTX Neural Shaders, RTX Neural Texture Compression, RTX Neural Radiance Cache and RTX Mega Geometry. All current games with updates and new games in 2025 will enabled to use all these new RTX 50 features, I am very exciting cant wait to test it on Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Portal RTX, Senua's Saga: Hellblade II, upcoming Half Life 2 RTX and others.
guys, ive have just checked online for info purposes and it seems no one is selling 4090s anymore or even 4080s, pretty sure the only 4090 i saw is here, one brand only for a cool 2500 quid, everyone is out of stock, even used market its so dry, i think GPUs is such a fast paced product that there will be a mass influx of 50 series cards because resellers are avoiding stocking up on 40 series cards?
Its just when the 40 series came out there were plenty of 20 series cards available, I really hope there will be enough 50 series cards to cover the markets needs!....
Its just when the 40 series came out there were plenty of 20 series cards available, I really hope there will be enough 50 series cards to cover the markets needs!....
TNA may as well wait for the 60s
Just might do that. Got free RTX upgrades coming and a huge backlog of games which all perform well enough for my needs on my 4070Ti.
Might wait and go for a 6070Ti or something
I still have almost 2 years warranty on this card anyway. So works out perfectly
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Damn. I expected 30-ish percent from the 5090, but really thought the 4080 was more bottlenecked by bandwidth and GDDR7 would do more for the 5080 even though it didn't get much of a shader bump..
If Nvidia's numbers are right and there's no weird frequency/fan hum/QA issues, the FE is going to be so hard to get hold of.
Who wants a huge Astral, which requires a huge case, massive airflow, when you can get a 2 slot tiny FE which performs the same?
Not to mention the FE will be £500 or more cheaper than the Astral (and other AIB flagships).
I think the only purpose of the AIB cards will be if you HAVE to have one on day one, and don't want to play the F5/waiting game for FE.
I think Nvidia could kill off the AIBs if it wants to, especially if its offering superior coolers and lower prices. The AIB's contribute nothing apart from supply chain, Nvidia to date is unable or unwilling to supply enough volume globally and AIB's are left to fill the gap
The 4090 obviously has more raw powerl if you have the juice and space in your case. However, if the 5080 works out a fair bit cheaper than maybe it's a better buy. It depends what your use case is because only you know that info.
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Tell them you'll give 800 for the 4090, tell them frame gen x4 makes the 4090 a paperweight and you are doing them a favour
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Just look at that soy boy face :/ Dear lord.
I sold my 4090 expecting to try and get a 5090 but not too impressed withe the uplift for the requured power.
I might go for the 5080 now to put me on until until the 60 series as that will be probably when GTA 6 etc will be coming out. That will at least let me try the new features out.
I think the 5090 might end up a depreciation disaster compared to the 4090 if the 60 series comes out on a new node.
I might go for the 5080 now to put me on until until the 60 series as that will be probably when GTA 6 etc will be coming out. That will at least let me try the new features out.
I think the 5090 might end up a depreciation disaster compared to the 4090 if the 60 series comes out on a new node.
5080 would be a better buy in my opinion if it will be close to msrp.
It may be slower at launch, but I expect newer, more RT heavy games to perform better on 5080 eventually.
Longer warranty as well.
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That would be daylight robbery
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If the VRAM is enough to play those new games