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benjii said:
I think people are using Cyberpunk as a lightning rod for their issue with FG. It's just this generations' Crysis. I for one welcome optional, taxing, graphical settings being included in AAA games. If there's no demand for this stuff, progression will get slowed.
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Plus, as I inferred in another post, people’s cynicism with the AI tech needs to be chalked up against the actual alternatives.

We can’t yet simultaneously achieve all of the following:

- path ray-tracing
- outstanding visual quality / effects
- high resolution
- no upscaling
- nil artefacts
- high FPS
- low latency
- cheap price

^^^ We all need to identify our preferences and pick our lane, in full knowledge of the compromises. We then tailor our gear purchases that helps us achieve that.

If you want no upscaling, good latency and high FPS then you’re in luck - you can easily achieve that with a cheap 1440p monitor and a 30 series card.
 
How much of the "low stock/availability" at launch talk is likely to be fomo marketing vs actually being likely? What do you think that it's a case of intentionally holding back supply?
 
jinxpad said:
How much of the "low stock/availability" at launch talk is likely to be fomo marketing vs actually being likely? What do you think that it's a case of intentionally holding back supply?
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If it really is low availability of 5090 (other thread by Gibbo suggests that the stock is likely to sell out in minutes if not seconds), I look forward to seeing the chaos.
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Also will be funny to see 5090 prices hit £2.5-3k :cry:

I wonder what the sentiment will be after the dust settles in a couple weeks.
 
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mahius said:
If it really is low availability of 5090 (other thread by Gibbo suggests that the stock is likely to sell out in minutes if not seconds), I look forward to seeing the chaos.
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Also will be funny to see 5090 prices hit £2.5-3k :cry:

I wonder what the sentiment will be after the dust settles in a couple weeks.
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Can't wait to see people pay £2500+ for the entry level cards. You know it's going to happen.
 
Nitefly said:
Plus, as I inferred in another post, people’s cynicism with the AI tech needs to be chalked up against the actual alternatives.

We can’t yet simultaneously achieve all of the following:

- path ray-tracing
- outstanding visual quality / effects
- high resolution
- no upscaling
- nil artefacts
- high FPS
- low latency
- cheap price

^^^ We all need to identify our preferences and pick our lane, in full knowledge of the compromises. We then tailor our gear purchases that helps us achieve that.

If you want no upscaling, good latency and high FPS then you’re in luck - you can easily achieve that with a cheap 1440p monitor and a 30 series card.
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I do like the tech. However my lane discourages me from spending 4 figures on a graphics card.

Especially this gen. Next will likely move to a manufacturing process that will permit bigger jumps in performance.

That said, who knows how much they will want for those.
 
Absolutely Clueless said:
Can't wait to see people pay £2500+ for the entry level cards. You know it's going to happen.
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Don't say that. Why are you hoping for our economy to go out control and for inflation to skyrocket?

Because at current rates I can't see anyone paying that kind of money for even mid range.

I would just keep what I have and just continue playing my huge library of games and play indie games.

I actually think if card prices went silly like that, new games would generally just continue to target whatever majority of people can run outside of a handful of games.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Yeah I took from this that the 5090 is hardly an upgrade over the 4090, massive power hog, very little performance improvement, and extortionately expensive. This is definitively one for the e-peen crowd :D
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The point to take from is was that we’re expecting a ~30% performance increase in “raw raster + ray tracing” with the 5090 over the 4090.

Neither 4090 or 5090 users are going to play Cyberpunk at 18-30 fps. People will change their settings to meet their preferences. Lowering the settings, turning on upscaling and so on.
 
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TNA said:
Don't say that. Why are you hoping for our economy to go out control and for inflation to skyrocket?

Because at current rates I can't see anyone paying that kind of money for even mid range.

I would just keep what I have and just continue playing my huge library of games and play indie games.

I actually think if card prices went silly like that, new games would generally just continue to target whatever majority of people can run outside of a handful of games.
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I am not wishing it on, but I reckon there are enough people in this thread that would cave, and they'd still sell out anyway. Each day my pessimism grows exponentially for how bad the supply and prices are going to be...
 
TNA said:
Don't say that. Why are you hoping for our economy to go out control and for inflation to skyrocket?

Because at current rates I can't see anyone paying that kind of money for even mid range.

I would just keep what I have and just continue playing my huge library of games and play indie games.

I actually think if card prices went silly like that, new games would generally just continue to target whatever majority of people can run outside of a handful of games.
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You're right. For a while games were being held back by the fact that the Xbox series S was selling extremely well (better than the X) and so devs were being instructed to optimise for that hardware, which is significantly less performant than the PS5 and Series X. My gf and I are both 3D artists, she said other devs she knows were complaining about the Series S for this exact reason.
 
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Absolutely Clueless said:
Right... I have spotted a Zotac Solid 5090 for £2330 (£2450 for the OC variant), and Zotac AMP Extreme Infinity for £2560. Yea.... nope.
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And they are bottom of the barrel cards lol, I really didn't think any of the AIB's would be under £2300 and it's only upwards from there.

I'm curious to see how many still go for the 5090 as gamers that is, For the pro user with holes in their pockets and can make use of the extra Vram etc but for a gamer it's DOA.
 
At thoose sorts of prices, excluding frame geneation shenanigans, the 5090 series is going to be suffering a quite significant drop in value when judged on a frame per £ basis vs the 4090 cards.

At least the 4090, somewhat perversely, offered a somewhat attractive £/FPS ratio.
 
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