NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

[Twinz]

I did

I get it. I thought I was making big-brain moves doing my usual generation skip for the 40 series, expecting a whopper of a bump for the gen afterwards. "Ha" I thought to myself "why buy a £1600 4090 or that ridiculous £1200 4080 now when I can chill with my 3080 and get at least that 4090 performance in the 5080 in a couple of years".

Well that didn't go to plan now did it. The 4080 was overpriced but at least it was an actual 80-class card. I feel a bit cheated if I'm honest. If the 5080 had more VRAM it would have been much easier to swallow.

So yeah, 30 series owners are getting a nice upgrade... But only if you go for the 5090.

Makes you wonder if they'll do a refresh at all - if they couldn't make many gains in the initial release, where will they go? The entire range might be like the 4080 Super - 3% gains with a price correction.

Looking forward to reviews in a sick way.

If they get enough defective 5090 dies, I could see a 24gb 5080Ti that performs as well or better than the 4090 with pricing depending on how well the linup is selling at that time. Heck, a 20gb 5080Ti might work too. There's a LOT of room between the 5090 and the 5080.

 

[Bidley]

If they get enough defective 5090 dies, I could see a 24gb 5080Ti that performs as well or better than the 4090 with pricing depending on how well the linup is selling at that time. Heck, a 20gb 5080Ti might work too. There's a LOT of room between the 5090 and the 5080.

Yes it does seem like that will happen, it's been clear as day from the first leaks that the traditional 80-class is completely missing. There's enough room for 2 or 3 cards!

Sadly there's enough room in the price gap as well...

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

I've been wondering the same (if there'll be a 5080 Ti/SUPER that comes in with around 24GB and is more of a cut-price 4090 type card) but that just leads me into being nervous to buy a 5080 in case they do and them I'm left annoyed again (having been left annoyed the first time by the current 5000 series line-up).

 

[StarShock]

I find it very perplexing these 3000 series owners are so defensive.

Us, “it should have been better given previous gen uplifts”.

Them, “well it’s better for us 3000 owners than it is for 4000 owners”.

Yeah we know, “but it should have been better by about another 20% or so”. We are happy you are going to get a nice upgrade, but we wish it was even better. Why so defensive because we are pointing out that the 5000 series cards are not remotely as good as previous gen uplifts?

Some people really want to upgrade and like all of us do at times like that are just looking for reassurance and justification, and probably aren't enjoying all the negativity.

To be fair to them the 5000 series are better than the 4000, just not by very much. So coming from a long way back it can be a good upgrade. Just not an exciting one for those looking in from the sidelines.

 

[Joxeon]

I've been wondering the same (if there'll be a 5080 Ti/SUPER that comes in with around 24GB and is more of a cut-price 4090 type card) but that just leads me into being nervous to buy a 5080 in case they do and them I'm left annoyed again (having been left annoyed the first time by the current 5000 series line-up).

If they do launch a 5080ti then one thing is for sure that they won’t be pricing it close to the 5080 in fact I’d expect it to cost around $1500.

 

[Youngtimer]

Very popular 5090 review. No faces, no talk, 300k views in less than 12 hours.

 

[ne0]

I'm not paying £2.5k on a 5090 (let's face it, nobody is getting an FE) so the 5080 would be the one. But it has the same amount of VRAM as the 4080, and it's looking like it's 15% better than a 4080 in a stiff breeze. That's not worth waiting 4 years for, it's just not.

Have you really been "waiting" though? What couldn't your 30 series do over the last 4 years that had you so desperate to upgrade all this time?

The way I see it is right here and NOW I'm ready to upgrade and looking at all the options NOW, the 5080 makes the most sense in terms of price /performance.

All this 40 Vs 50 series negativity is irrelevant to my personal circumstances and I just want to be excited about upgrading to a card that is significantly more powerful than the one I have.

 

[mrk]

Very popular 5090 review. No faces, no talk, 300k views in less than 12 hours.

And also utterly pointless for the reasons DF, HUB etc mention, 700fps in a video container on a platform that only supports 4K 60fp[s being watched by people typically on a 120Hz display?

It's kind of head scratching to the logic.

 

[Dave2150]

Theres some B Grade 4080/Supers in the clearnace section on the overclockers site if you didnt know

Also some excellent 4090's in the MM section for sale

 

[Nitefly]

Why so defensive because we are pointing out that the 5000 series cards are not remotely as good as previous gen uplifts?

When you say ‘cards’ here, a better word would be ‘uplifts’. Or you could say “the 5000 series cards do not give uplifts that are are remotely as good…” - and then everyone would be on board.

30 series owners are just excited, think the cards are good and will provide a good uplift to them. Excited -> naturally prone to ‘protect’ that excitement.

Anyway everyone should now get what you meant and we all know how we are viewing these things, so no biggy

Have you really been "waiting" though? What couldn't your 30 series do over the last 4 years that had you so desperate to upgrade all this time?

The way I see it is right here and NOW I'm ready to upgrade and looking at all the options NOW, the 5080 makes the most sense in terms of price /performance.

This wasn’t addressed at me but I haven’t been ‘waiting’ for performance to £ to increase either.

Instead, I’ve been waiting to ‘get more’ after buying 3 4090s mid-cycle and returning them all for faults: “I would like one ‘right now’ but CBA with this faff…! The moment has passed. 50 series out soon, so I will wait to get a product that can push more frames.”

 

[TNA]

I disagree.

A 3090 was more capable running AAA games 2 years ago than it is now and the need to upgrade wasn't really there.

The 4080 was £1200 at launch.
The 4090 was £1600 at launch.

Neither were necessary upgrades from a 3090 2 years ago in the vast majority of use cases.

The 4080 Super launched too late to really be a sensible purchase before the 50 series imminent arrival.

The 5080 comes at a perfect time for 30 series owners to upgrade. It's far cheaper than both 4080 and 4090 were at launch.

30 series owners upgrading to 5080 for £1k are getting big upgrade for a relatively good price and even from a 3090 it's a very decent upgrade. Plus you get the AI goodies as a Brucey bonus.

True. But let's see how many will sell for £1000. Bet many will in stock will be £1100 or more. At least until stock situation stabilises.

Isn't the 5080 FE meant to be £979? Certainly better value than a 4090.

 

[TNA]

Still coil whine Lottery whilst paying £2k +

@Nitefly

 

[XeNoNF50]

If they get enough defective 5090 dies, I could see a 24gb 5080Ti that performs as well or better than the 4090 with pricing depending on how well the linup is selling at that time. Heck, a 20gb 5080Ti might work too. There's a LOT of room between the 5090 and the 5080.

There is a massive gulf between them!

 

[TNA]

It gets pointed out 10 times a day.
Along with “I won’t be upgrading” thanks for coming to the 50 series thread to let us know you’re not buying. ( not you personally either just a lot of 40 series owners keep coming here to let us know) some of us 30 series owners are looking forward to the 100-120% uplift but gets draining reading the constant negativity. We get it, compared to the amazing 40 series it’s not much of an uplift. 30 - 40 was a big leap in node change, this is on the same node, so nvidia have done what they can, it’s basically a 40series+ which some of us are fine with

Leave 40 series users alone. It is just a coping mechanism. They will no longer have the latest and greatest!

 

[TNA]

I find it very perplexing these 4090 series owners are so defensive.

FTFY

 

[mrk]

Partakes in the moans about people filling up the thread with repetitive spam, then proceeds to post repetitive spam, sane logic there

 

[markymoo]

When you say ‘cards’ here, a better word would be ‘uplifts’. Or you could say “the 5000 series cards do not give uplifts that are are remotely as good…” - and then everyone would be on board.

30 series owners are just excited, think the cards are good and will provide a good uplift to them. Excited -> naturally prone to ‘protect’ that excitement.

Anyway everyone should now get what you meant and we all know how we are viewing these things, so no biggy



This wasn’t addressed at me but I haven’t been ‘waiting’ for performance to £ to increase either.

Instead, I’ve been waiting to ‘get more’ after buying 3 4090s mid-cycle and returning them all for faults: “I would like one ‘right now’ but CBA with this faff…! The moment has passed. 50 series out soon, so I will wait to get a product that can push more frames.”

This is why a used card puts me off somewhat.
I would be mortified if I sold my 3090 at a £1500 loss, to pay around £1400 on a used 4090 and it melt. Almost £3k and would be left with having to buy a new card.
Would almost be £5k in this scenario.

I think the Framegen and A.I. is in its infancy, so next cards will be a lot better. Possibly will also get more and use less power with a die process shrink. When the 60 series comes out I think the 50's won't hold much resale value.
So this kind of means the only stop gap would have been a 5080.
Just have to decide if £1200 for one (doubt you'd get an FE) is worth the trade.
If you wait longer for the 5080TI/Super you may aswell wait bit longer for 60 series.

Bit of a strange this cycle, unless you have the spare cash and don't mind grabbing the 5090.

I'm a 3090 Suprim X owner.
(P.s. If getting a used 4080 Super or 4090. Is there a brand or year that I'm looking for where they fixed the issues or is it a £1-1.5k lottery?)

 

[ICDP]

FTFY

In all honesty the 5080 does still move the needle a bit closer to a 4090 for a lot less money. So I can see how many people on GPUs lower than a 4080 may consider one. Assuming you can get close to MSRP.

I just don’t see how a used 4090 will hold its value like some are predicting. I just can’t imagine anyone who would consider paying cover £1000 for a used 4090 just for gaming. Not if a brand new 5080 gives ~90% of the performance for a similar price.

Obviously everyone’s idea of value differs of course.

 

[TNA]

In all honesty the 5080 does still move the needle a bit closer to a 4090 for a lot less money. So I can see how many people on GPUs lower than a 4080 may consider one. Assuming you can get close to MSRP.

I just don’t t see how a used 4090 will hold its value like some are predicting. I just can’t imagine anyone who would consider paying cover £1000 for a used 4090 just for gaming. Not if a brand new 5080 gives ~90% of the performance for a similar price.

Obviously everyone’s idea of value differs of course.

@mrk will be along soon to explain

 

[ICDP]

I think my logic is, if you had over a grand to spend on 4090 like performance, you would have spent it already… on a 4090.

If you have over £1500 to spend on a GPU, you may as well either hold out for a 5090, instead of using it for a used GPU that is barely (10% - 15%) faster than a brand new £1000ish GPU.