Man of Honour
..do you play on low settings?
I was running out of vRAM in a lot of games with my 580. This was at 1920x1080
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NVIDIA 780 Ti Announced (18/10/13)
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..do you play on low settings?
I was running out of vRAM in a lot of games with my 580. This was at 1920x1080
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Agree but I don't think the 780s are due anything of the sort in Nvidia's eyes. If they are selling well (which I think they are), they can just stick 780ti cards in there for £50-100 over the average ref 780 price. Those with aftermarket coolers can go to town on the price even more.
Soldato
Not now, it's not a needed upgrade if you've already got 780s running at 1400p.
I mean if you've already thought about it and got the cash go for it but the extra vram wouldn't help unless you went for more monitors as I'm led to believe.
Caporegime
I think someone on OCN.net worked it out at ~100Mhz for the 780 to need to match a Titan (1000Mhz 780 = 900Mhz Titan). The 780 has custom boards and like with the Classy, great components on it and clocks of 1400Mhz + are possible. I can get close to 1400Mhz with 1.395V but that is suicidal on these VRM's. The classy seems to be reaching this quite easy and in some cases on air.
That is why I think they will use the 780 slap on some ram and clock it up. Easier with less heat. They may even call it a Ghz edition
Caporegime
Yer he did. He probably knows better than all of us put together as well but I live in the hope that none of these have been sent out to anyone yet, so I hold onto my slim chance of being correct.
Caporegime
I think only Nvidia know this but I see no reason as to there not being a non reference card. One of these on a Classy could have me even tempted
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Nope, everything max, save for aa, at 5760x1200 its too much of a hit.
Which game made you run out of vram at 1080p?
Man of Honour
Skyrim, Tomb Raider and Crysis 3 are the ones that come to mind. Most of it is down to high AA though, which you say you don't max.
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To be honest, GPU wise I don't think the GK110 is that much behind the Hawaii at all, but the reason why the leaked results showing the 290x being faster than the 780 (Titan even) is because of their lower memory bandwidth.I think someone on OCN.net worked it out at ~100Mhz for the 780 to need to match a Titan (1000Mhz 780 = 900Mhz Titan). The 780 has custom boards and like with the Classy, great components on it and clocks of 1400Mhz + are possible. I can get close to 1400Mhz with 1.395V but that is suicidal on these VRM's. The classy seems to be reaching this quite easy and in some cases on air.
That is why I think they will use the 780 slap on some ram and clock it up. Easier with less heat. They may even call it a Ghz edition
A 290X's memory bandwidth out of the box is 320GB/s, whereas GTX780's memory bandwidth is only 288GB/s. If the memory on the 290x actually got decent overclocking headroom, the gap for the memory bandwidth on oc vs oc would be widen even more than stock vs stock, purely because 290X got a wide bus size.
I honestly don't think we need more than 3GB of vram, single more of us game at lower than 4K/3 screens settings anyway, but I do think for the GTX780Ti, Nvidia need to use some extremely fast and overclockable memory for the 3GB vram, to make the make the memory bandwidth not fall behind the 290X by too much. 1700MHz out of the box (326GB/s) and overclockable to 2000MHz on average (384GB/s, which would equal to 512-bit with memory at 1500MHz) would be good.
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Soldato
The memory on the 780s is already hugely overclockable.
Man of Honour
Gibbo did say about the extra vram being expensive but when did NVidia worry about producing expensive cards.
Another option NVidia have is to use 4.5gb which means on a 4k benchmark the 4gb 290X will run out first.
The other thing to remember is the 290X is not as fast as AMD would have people think, if it loses in nearly all the synthetic benchmarks to existing NVidia cards (I know they are not games) this gives a good idea as to how much GPU grunt the card really has. A reasonable factory overclock on the existing GTX 780 is all that is needed to get the job done.
In the specs I posted earlier I was messing about, but I think the actual GTX 780ti will be pretty close to them.
A couple of things.
Firstly this is obviously an answer to AMD's new cards, so why on earth would they ship it with less memory. Less is not good in the grand marketing game.
Secondly why only 3 way SLI?
Thirdly did Jen-Hsun Huang say fastest GPU or fastest card?
Fastest GPU could just mean running at the most MHZ rather than performance, fastest card would almost certainly have to be a dual chip card and the image shown doesn't look like a dual chip card.
I know I said a couple of things, oh well
Firstly this is obviously an answer to AMD's new cards, so why on earth would they ship it with less memory. Less is not good in the grand marketing game.
Secondly why only 3 way SLI?
Thirdly did Jen-Hsun Huang say fastest GPU or fastest card?
Fastest GPU could just mean running at the most MHZ rather than performance, fastest card would almost certainly have to be a dual chip card and the image shown doesn't look like a dual chip card.
I know I said a couple of things, oh well
Man of Honour
A couple of things.
Firstly this is obviously an answer to AMD's new cards, so why on earth would they ship it with less memory. Less is not good in the grand marketing game.
Secondly why only 3 way SLI?
Thirdly did Jen-Hsun Huang say fastest GPU or fastest card?
Fastest GPU could just mean running at the most MHZ rather than performance, fastest card would almost certainly have to be a dual chip card and the image shown doesn't look like a dual chip card.
I know I said a couple of things, oh well
The 3 way SLI support bit is probably the same reason as the existing GTX 780, 4 way SLI is reserved for the Titans. If you want to get 4 way SLI with GTX 780s there are work rounds to achieve it and I think you should be able do the same when the GTX 780ti arrives.
I think when the GTX 780ti arrives it will beat a Titan or 290X out of the box (the bit NVidia are interested in) in the same way as a non ref GTX 780 also does with a higher overclock.
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I'm not say they ain't. But because the GK110 are still only 384-bit, they need to be at those memory clock speed I mentioned to match up with the 512-bit 290x.
Soldato
In pure memory bandwidth terms, yes, but I'm not convinced there's much to be gained by the 512 bit bus other than 4K which of course is minuscule market presently.