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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

its looking like NVIDIA might trounce amd and their big navi, if rumours are correct 3080ti performance and probable large die size could cost more than 2080ti. But realistically how much more could NVIDIA increase the price given the current economic climate which is projected to last for next year at least.

if they increase prices to £1200 rrp and with custom cards topping £1500-1700 who could buy these at such prices?

not long left before we know the answer just worried we might not like it much, if its that expensive I am buying ps5 and calling it day.

How many 2080Tis do they sell? I'm sure there are enough richer gamers it there to buy them. The average gamer just won't be able to afford them.
 
However, UK folks wanting a GPU to last them a couple of years do still have the option of 0% finance...
I remember many years ago there used to be a very popular brand named "Time" which used too sell crappy home computer systems and loads of people bought them on Finance

I have no idea if many people still buy whole computers or computer parts by finance these days.
 
I remember many years ago there used to be a very popular brand named "Time" use too sell crappy home computer systems and loads of people bought them on Finance

I have no idea if many people still buy whole computers or computer parts by finance these days.

I remember they used to have a shop in my town and walking past they'd have all the finance deals splashed over the window. Often completely overpriced 586 builds in the days of early Pentiums, etc.
 
We’re getting closer I can feel it. So glad I didn’t get involved with Turing, would be pretty miffed that DLSS is only starting to come good and RTX was just NVidia getting adopters to pay their r&d.
 
However, UK folks wanting a GPU to last them a couple of years do still have the option of 0% finance...
This is essentially how I purchase most of my big PC upgrades. I have a Barclaycard where every time my balance hits zero or close to, they send me an offer for a balance transfer, usually for anywhere between 18-24 months interest free (3.5% transfer fee). I load up another card with PC upgrades, then transfer the balance and pay it off over the 18-24 month period. Lets me keep upgrading without having to pay out a large lump sum ever.
 
This is essentially how I purchase most of my big PC upgrades. I have a Barclaycard where every time my balance hits zero or close to, they send me an offer for a balance transfer, usually for anywhere between 18-24 months interest free (3.5% transfer fee). I load up another card with PC upgrades, then transfer the balance and pay it off over the 18-24 month period. Lets me keep upgrading without having to pay out a large lump sum ever.

Crikey. I couldn't do it like that!

Unless I physically have the full amount of money in my account I wouldn't buy.

Even if I have the money it helps me question and think through each purchase for their worth. The shock of seeing many hundreds or possibly over £1000 disappear in the matter of minutes from your account makes you question your decision.

That's one of the reasons why I never purchased a 2080ti because even though I had the money sitting in my account I just couldn't bring myself to buy it because I didn't feel it was worth it.
 
Crikey. I couldn't do it like that!

Unless I physically have the full amount of money in my account I wouldn't buy.

Even if I have the money it helps me question and think through each purchase for their worth. The shock of seeing many hundreds or possibly over £1000 disappear in the matter of minutes from your account makes you question your decision.

That's one of the reasons why I never purchased a 2080ti because even though I had the money sitting in my account I just couldn't bring myself to buy it because I didn't feel it was worth it.

That's because the 2080ti isn't worth it, great con pulled by nvidia if you compare the 1080 pricing to the 1080ti.
 
How's it a 'con'?

It's expensive, but it's also the fastest thing on the market (bar the Titan). For me it was worth it (but then my company claimed the VAT back and I use it for AI/ML stuff as well as games)
 
How's it a 'con'?

It's expensive, but it's also the fastest thing on the market (bar the Titan). For me it was worth it (but then my company claimed the VAT back and I use it for AI/ML stuff as well as games)

Well ray tracing was the big selling point, they spent about 2 hours dry fapping on stage about it, then they go ahead and make it available on non rtx cards. DLSS was basically their saving grace in that respect, if that was a software feature that worked on pascal then all they had going for them was an average speed bump for a ludicrous price. So turing was really all about dlss as ray tracing isn't exclusive to it, so what seemed to be the big hoo haa selling point in reality wasn't.
 
Well ray tracing was the big selling point, they spent about 2 hours dry fapping on stage about it, then they go ahead and make it available on non rtx cards. DLSS was basically their saving grace in that respect, if that was a software feature that worked on pascal then all they had going for them was an average speed bump for a ludicrous price. So turing was really all about dlss as ray tracing isn't exclusive to it, so what seemed to be the big hoo haa selling point in reality wasn't.

Ray tracing hardware on Turing was always about the performance side of it - you can implement ray tracing on a calculator it doesn't require anything special hardware wise to perform the maths, it does require something special to do that at a speed that is remotely useable for gaming.

A 2080ti is between 6 and 8 times faster than a 1080ti for ray tracing.
 
Ray tracing hardware on Turing was always about the performance side of it - you can implement ray tracing on a calculator it doesn't require anything special hardware wise to perform the maths, it does require something special to do that at a speed that is remotely useable for gaming.

A 2080ti is between 6 and 8 times faster than a 1080ti for ray tracing.

Maybe so but that's not the impression leather jacket man gave in his song and dance about it. Without dlss it's not worthwhile at all.
 
Ray tracing will only be worth it once those who need 60fps or 100fps or 144+FPS can get it with ray tracing turned on. The minute you have to choose between ray tracing or having "your" acceptable frame rate you're compromising. Paying extra to compromise doesn't add to me.

That said I think Ampere could be the point we get the possibility of RT and decent frame rates, at least at lower resolutions. Anyone think Ampere will be able to do all the bells and whistles at 1440p 144Hz with RT turned on?
 
Crikey. I couldn't do it like that!

Unless I physically have the full amount of money in my account I wouldn't buy.

Objectively, it makes much more sense to get 0% finance and spread the payments if you have a stable income. It's less financial impact in one hit with zero interest. Win. :)

Well ray tracing was the big selling point, they spent about 2 hours dry fapping on stage about it, then they go ahead and make it available on non rtx cards. DLSS was basically their saving grace in that respect, if that was a software feature that worked on pascal then all they had going for them was an average speed bump for a ludicrous price. So turing was really all about dlss as ray tracing isn't exclusive to it, so what seemed to be the big hoo haa selling point in reality wasn't.

Wow. Nvidia pioneered RT, a new standard of graphics fidelity which is about to change all games for the better when it hits mainstream development, and they can't 'spend 2 hours on stage dry fapping about it'? I cannot think of a single new graphics technology in history, and I have lived through them ALL (PowerVR, 3DFX), that was not significantly enhanced in performance in the generation following its introduction. Hell, I remember when AA was introduced and for the first generation or actually a couple of generations performance sucked and enabling it was like a slideshow. It's not like Nvidia purposefully limited RT capability on Turing cards, it's the best they could do at release and at RT was dramatically faster on a 2080Ti than a 1080Ti with it enabled, which was the whole point. https://www.techjunkies.nl/2019/09/17/does-nvidia-rtx-work-well-on-a-gtx-1080-ti/

In short: I wish people would stop saying things like "con" about relative performance of new graphics technologies... there will always be big refinement in subsequent generations. The 20X0 series are still objectively speaking great cards, but they were the first of a new RT generation so there will always be a compromise.
 
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My problem with RT is it does not bring enough visual enhancement to the game to make the extra cost worthwhile.

My RTX Titans can run most things RT with the other settings maxed out without having to use DLSS, my problem is I struggle to notice when RT is turned on as most of the time it is hardly noticeable.

If you are a hardcore gamer visual effects are secondary to the gameplay. If you are obsessed with tiny visual improvements go to an art gallery.:D
 
My problem with RT is it does not bring enough visual enhancement to the game to make the extra cost worthwhile.

My RTX Titans can run most things RT with the other settings maxed out without having to use DLSS, my problem is I struggle to notice when RT is turned on as most of the time it is hardly noticeable.

If you are a hardcore gamer visual effects are secondary to the gameplay. If you are obsessed with tiny visual improvements go to an art gallery.:D

Its quite noticeable in some games and obscure in others that's just the nature of it.
 
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