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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Richdog said:
Objectively, it makes much more sense to get 0% finance and spread the payments if you have a stable income. It's less financial impact in one hit with zero interest. Win.
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For me personally it would lose the impact of how much an item is if I spread the cost. A sort of disconnect so to speak. Doing it my way makes me question its worth more and saves me from making rash decisions.

For example my methods saved me from buying a 2080ti as I scrutinised the purchase decision very carefully and it showed it just didn't offer the performance uplift I'd want for such a large increase in price over its predecessor.

I hate paying for things over long term because a stable income is never ever guaranteed. It's why I only really have a mortgage and no other debt so to speak. And even then I always make sure I have 6 to 12 months worth saved to cover bills at any one time.
 
Richdog said:
I never check FPS, all I want is the best-looking and most immersive experience possible without noticing any bad performance. Gsync/Freesync means FPS drops are smoothed out anyway for any games that do have lower FPS. Twitch games for the lose. :p

I often wait to play older games in their full modded glory rather than new and unoptimised releases. I have a big back catalogue to get through and I want them at 4k looking like rays of heaven. :D
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that is the smart move but only really viable for single player titles

taking out debt and personal finance to afford a high end GPU is questionable though, the rate things are going we'll be offered hire purchase on GPUs later this year
 
Still happy i bought my 2080ti for £700 each second hand.

Not sure whether I will upgrade or not but since i am looking at getting a LG 48" OLED it would be daft not to in order to take advantage of the 120Hz. maybe just one 3080ti or even the Titan.
 
Gabbatek said:
That's because the 2080ti isn't worth it,
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Not now it isn't, but those of us who bought it at or near launch have had plenty of enjoyment from it.

Troezar said:
Anyone think Ampere will be able to do all the bells and whistles at 1440p 144Hz with RT turned on?
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For that on modern games I think you'll have to wait for Hopper. But if you want to play Quake RTX I got high 20s fps at 4K so should get well over 60 fps on Ampere if the rumour to which @LoadsaMoney has iinked about quadruple performance is correct so 1440p @ 144 Hz should be on.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Rumoured to be 4x the RT performance of Turing.
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That would still only put a 3080Ti at 60fps-80fps level, at a native 4K (no DLSS) when running a game like Control, maxed out...nice improvement,for sure. But $1200-$1500 worth of an improvement?

I really don't see any reason for a current 2xxx owner to upgrade to a 3xxx. Waiting for the 4xxx cards in ~2022 will only bring a true next gen leap, IMO.
 
Cooper said:
That would still only put a 3080Ti at 60fps-80fps level, at a native 4K (no DLSS) when running a game like Control, maxed out...nice improvement,for sure. But $1200-$1500 worth of an improvement?

I really don't see any reason for a current 2xxx owner to upgrade to a 3xxx. Waiting for the 4xxx cards in ~2022 will only bring a true next gen leap, IMO.
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Why would it not be worth it to the people who want to play their favourite games at that resolution at 60fps-80fps+? Many less graphically demanding or better optimised games will scale higher than that in FPS. Many people will be happy just to have a smooth 60fps in graphically gorgeous games with all details and AA enabled at 4k.
 
Richdog said:
Why would it not be worth it to the people who want to play their favourite games at that resolution at 60fps-80fps+? Many games will scale higher than that in FPS.
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..the only thing that can bring a 2080Ti to its knees is Ray Tracing, sure a x4 improvement in that is nice, but your not going to see a x4 improvement in traditional 3D raster performance, I bet that will be along the usual 30-40% generational improvement.
 
Cooper said:
That would still only put a 3080Ti at 60fps-80fps level, at a native 4K (no DLSS) when running a game like Control, maxed out...nice improvement,for sure. But $1200-$1500 worth of an improvement?
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You think the 3080Ti is going to be $1200 more than the 2080Ti? Where are you getting your $1200 to $1500 figures from?
 
Cooper said:
..the only thing that can bring a 2080Ti to its knees is Ray Tracing, sure a x4 improvement in that is nice, but your not going to see a x4 improvement in traditional 3D raster performance, I bet that will be along the usual 30-40% generational improvement.
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Well, considering RT is now a new graphical standard that will soon be in many games (and patched into some older ones), why would you not want a card that performs RT workloads 4x faster? Isn't this just basic common sense that it will result in a huge performance increase as games start to heavily use RT? The 2080Ti runs RT games at a 3x faster FPS at high resolutions than the 1080Ti... that IS real-world performance. If the 3080Ti runs it 4x faster than a 2080Ti, and has 40% more raw power to boot, then that is, objectively speaking, a significant performance increase for this generation.
 
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Gerard said:
Well ray tracing was the big selling point, they spent about 2 hours dry fapping on stage about it, then they go ahead and make it available on non rtx cards. DLSS was basically their saving grace in that respect, if that was a software feature that worked on pascal then all they had going for them was an average speed bump for a ludicrous price. So turing was really all about dlss as ray tracing isn't exclusive to it, so what seemed to be the big hoo haa selling point in reality wasn't.
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well put.
I wouldn’t be surprised if DLSS 3 is not compatible with the 2000 series. The 1000 series might get dropped to legacy support.
 
Cooper said:
..the only thing that can bring a 2080Ti to its knees is Ray Tracing, sure a x4 improvement in that is nice, but your not going to see a x4 improvement in traditional 3D raster performance, I bet that will be along the usual 30-40% generational improvement.
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That would put it at somewhere close to double the performance of my 1080. I'd quite happily take that improvement, especially in VR.
 
Cooper said:
I really don't see any reason for a current 2xxx owner to upgrade to a 3xxx. Waiting for the 4xxx cards in ~2022 will only bring a true next gen leap, IMO.
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Because "The best". At least, that was the rationalization for shelling out when Nvidia jacked the Ti's price up last time.
 
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