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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

beany_bot said:
Because of poor Turing sales. They dont want a repeat.
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TBF,Turing didn't do that badly,especially after the Super line-up helped improve the competitiveness of the line-up. 12 months ago Nvidia was 2/3 of their total revenue from consumer sales,with over 60% margins(similar to mining but with mining demand down),and increased revenue. AMD is no doubt going to launch after Nvidia,so they are first to the new generation,so not sure why this is all required. AMD won't have anything to compete with for weeks,or months after Nvidia has revealed their Ampere GPUs. It's also not like gamers will ignore an Nvidia event too! :P
 
alec said:
all down to pricing
if "+34%" performance comes with +20% price hike, hard to be excited about it
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But if its +34% with the 3080 and its the same price as the 2080ti then that would be something to be happy about (unless you are trying to sell your 2080ti).
 
alec said:
all down to pricing
if "+34%" performance comes with +20% price hike, hard to be excited about it
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That is the main concern for me, if there is again a price hike for the increase in performance then again it will be a product for only those willing to pay a big chunk. In fact there should be a price reduction for it to make sense.

2080 price and performance was roughly same to 1080ti.
If the 2080 was also $499 instead of $699 and had the performance of a 1080ti then yes I would accept that (even though again in the past it was the xx70 that would match the previous gen xx80ti in performance).

But same price and just maybe a few fps more (3 or so fps if i recall in some games) is not actual progress. In fact it felt like they renamed the product and just being the same product with better clocks etc. But no it had ray tracing capabilities. But 1-2 games, but hey buy our product and become beta tester for us...

I understand architecture is getting harder and harder to squeeze more performance out of a transistor, but the raytracing processing is not up there (at least gen 1 RTX) so why shoehorn it and charge a fortune extra.

I so want there to be a good product with decent price whether NV or AMD or Intel or XYZ. I finally want to enjoy proper ultra settings on 4k possibly 120hz at some point but i dont see this happening even with their beastly 3090. If it does I wont be able to justify the price anyway haha.
 
We need a way to calculate maximum usable memory for a given GPU. My 1080Ti has 11gb of memory but I expect the 3080's 10gb to do a better job.

Likewise, I don't think my 1080Ti could ever use 24gb of memory...ever.

So I don't think just stating the amount of vram gives enough information. I don't even think the capacity and bandwidth together are enough without some way to match it up to the GPU's ability to use both.
 
Poneros said:
I love this marketing push by Nvidia, still the #1 reason they have trounced ATI/AMD so badly.
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LOL, you actually believe that? The only reason this "marketing push" is even occurring is its 20 years since the original Geforce 256 ddr launched. Not like this happens with every launch so your comment is totally wrong.
 
beany_bot said:
I mean if thats true I'm actually pretty furious. Imagine all the 1080Ti owners, who have a 2 generation old card now having to take a downgrade on their Vram. It outrageous. I won't be buying a 3080 if it only has 10GB Vram. and you can quote me on that. Im already using 9GB+ often. I'll wait for AMD or the super.
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If RTX 3080 is the top die GA102, then nVidia knows something disturbing about its competitive position against the ultimate Big Navi.

Nvidia is wrong about the VRAM sizes - RTX 3090 with 24 GB is unreal overkill, while RTX 3080 with 10 GB is just stupid too little too late.

Avoid - vote with your wallets, guys.
 
Gerard said:
LOL, you actually believe that? The only reason this "marketing push" is even occurring is its 20 years since the original Geforce 256 ddr launched. Not like this happens with every launch so your comment is totally wrong.
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I'm talking about previous launches as well. ATI had better cards sometimes (vs Fermi, Tahiti, Hawaii etc) but still got heavily outsold by Nvidia. Their marketing is 2nd only to Apple. Asus does it well too, hence they can sell subpar cards for a premium. Razer too etc
 
Poneros said:
I'm talking about previous launches as well. ATI had better cards sometimes (vs Fermi, Tahiti, Hawaii etc) but still got heavily outsold by Nvidia. Their marketing is 2nd only to Apple. Asus does it well too, hence they can sell subpar cards for a premium. Razer too etc
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But there was no big marketing pushes for previous launches, the cards just arrived. The simple reason NVIDIA outsell amd in cards is due to the legacy of "bad drivers" continuing to haunt amd from the late 90's.
 
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