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**Nvidia G-Sync owners thread**

It'll be interesting to hear how this goes, especially on lower-end gear (I see the 860M supports both adaptive v-sync and g-sync, presumably for the built-in screen and any external DP-connected monitor respectively) - though a laptop I was looking at with the 860M in it had no DP connector so that's a waste! :(
 
David Bisset said:
It'll be interesting to hear how this goes, especially on lower-end gear (I see the 860M supports both adaptive v-sync and g-sync, presumably for the built-in screen and any external DP-connected monitor respectively) - though a laptop I was looking at with the 860M in it had no DP connector so that's a waste! :(
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Adaptive vsync just means it turns off vsync below 60fps, it isnt the same as adaptive sync, which nvidia have not yet announced any plans to support
 
andybird123 said:
Adaptive vsync just means it turns off vsync below 60fps, it isnt the same as adaptive sync, which nvidia have not yet announced any plans to support
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Well spotted, I did think that it meant the new optional vesa standard component but your quite right it isn't, very confusing naming in this case.

I think the naming is down to vesa due to it coming a good while after adaptive V-Sync. certainly very confusing.
 
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Looking forward to hearing some feedback here. I'm personally waiting for the AMD stuff myself (could do with a monitor upgrade for it anyway) but I want to know if this is the future.
 
MrMarvelous said:
Looking forward to hearing some feedback here. I'm personally waiting for the AMD stuff myself (could do with a monitor upgrade for it anyway) but I want to know if this is the future.
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adaptive refresh (freesync) isn't actually AMD tech and its part of the VESA standard for the 1.2a displayport and future versions. If you don't own an nvidia gpu though, theres literally no point in getting a gsync monitor, so I agree with you there. In regards to if its the future or not, thats easy to answer with a big fat YUP.
 
James J said:
adaptive refresh (freesync) isn't actually AMD tech and its part of the VESA standard for the 1.2a displayport and future versions. If you don't own an nvidia gpu though, theres literally no point in getting a gsync monitor, so I agree with you there. In regards to if its the future or not, thats easy to answer with a big fat YUP.
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You have to be very careful when talking about all these new Sync systems, so as not to confuse people.

V-Sync or Vertical Sync has been around for ages and is common to all GPU's

Adaptive V-Sync has been around for a couple of years and is an Nvidia technology.

Adaptive Sync is a new method and now has been made a voluntary part of the VESA standard 1.2a (it is expected to become mandatory in 1.3)

G-Sync is Nvidia's proprietary system that requires any kepler cards from the 650ti boost upwards and drivers from R331.58 or higher. it also requires specific hardware to be present in the monitor.

FreeSync (not necessarily its release name) is AMD's proprietary system that will require a 7000, 8000, R7,or R9 card for video playback, and a R9 295X2, 290X, R9 290, R7 260X and R7 260, or certain APU's for use during gaming. there are no drivers available for it as of yet.
 
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Freesync doesn't exist though. Thats what I'm getting at. AMD wanted adaptive sync made part of the VESA standard so they didn't have to go down the expensive route developing their own system (aka nvidias gsync) to do the same thing. The name was coined by AMD before adaptive sync/refresh was a mentioned in the new VESA standard.
 
According to the AMD Q&A, freesync is AMD's proprietary implementation (literally "secret sauce" as they called it) that when combined with an adaptive sync monitor allows Gsync-like operation

AMD are still using the name freesync independently of adaptive sync
 
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James J said:
Freesync doesn't exist though. Thats what I'm getting at. AMD wanted adaptive sync made part of the VESA standard so they didn't have to go down the expensive route developing their own system (aka nvidias gsync) to do the same thing. The name was coined by AMD before adaptive sync/refresh was a mentioned in the new VESA standard.
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FreeSync does exist as AMD have demoed it a couple of times it is just still in the pre release phase of its existence.
 
andybird123 said:
According to the AMD Q&A, freesync is AMD's proprietary implementation (literally "secret sauce" as they called it) that when combined with an adaptive sync monitor allows Gsync-like operation

AMD are still using the name freesync independently of adaptive sync
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bru said:
FreeSync does exist as AMD have demoed it a couple of times it is just still in the pre release phase of its existence.
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It was demo'd on a laptop which has a hardwired connection to the GPU, allowing a far more simple approach to the same idea. This is the reason why gsync replaces internal monitor hardware at the moment, as it only uses display port which has been modified to use 1.2a standards (similar to draft N wireless before it was agreed on as a standard).

All AMD are doing is coining a term for them to sell more products, off the back of a standard technology implemented by VESA. Its like Nvidia renaming the OSD on a monitor to nvidia control panel or something equally daft.
 
James J said:
It was demo'd on a laptop which has a hardwired connection to the GPU, allowing a far more simple approach to the same idea. This is the reason why gsync replaces internal monitor hardware at the moment, as it only uses display port which has been modified to use 1.2a standards (similar to draft N wireless before it was agreed on as a standard).

All AMD are doing is coining a term for them to sell more products, off the back of a standard technology implemented by VESA. Its like Nvidia renaming the OSD on a monitor to nvidia control panel or something equally daft.
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Here is a good article on that.

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=64342

should explain it in more detail than I can. Adaptive sync is the display port 1.2standard, it allows changes to refresh rate on the fly. Freesync is How AMD are going to use that standard to provide dynamic refresh rates that can keep games and monitors in sync.

So they are two separate things. Nvidia could use adaptive sync as well, But I think the problem is that their current cards don't support display port 1.2a and only some of AMD's lineup do.

I have read elsewhere that a firmware upgrade can be done on cards that have display port 1.2, but, will AMD or Nvidia release any firmware?

And if Gynsc takes off in a big way they won't need to use adaptive sync at all. And it should do based on the reviews/user opinions that I have read.
 
Mighty jealous of you guys getting in early on this. Doubt I'll be joining you for at least a year or two.

James J said:
It was demo'd on a laptop which has a hardwired connection to the GPU, allowing a far more simple approach to the same idea.
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They did demo it running on a monitor a few months back at Computex. I don't think it'll work as well as g-sync, but it'll still be a nice thing to have for amd users with compatible monitors.
 
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