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**Nvidia G-Sync owners thread**
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Soldato
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Here's an article from May where Asus muse on 4K 120hz:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...gineers-confirm-120hz-4k-still-some-time-off/
I imagine we'll be hearing about them soon enough, maybe Q3. I may end up owning a 1440p for 6 months.
Q3 2016 you mean?
4k hasn't properly established itself yet and the technology for 120hz 4k isn't months away, let alone the GPU power needed to run it.
It doesn't make sense from a commercial viewpoint either to launch any in the next year, and then of course you're relying on then next range topping cards to have DP 1.3 just to be able to output a 4k 120hz signal.
Early 2016 at the very earliest before we start hearing of any displays I reckon. Remember it's not even been 2 years since the very first 4k monitor was launched.
Won't be trading it in, I might need a bigger desk though
Don't forget new Gpu's
I wonder if 3 Titans will cope?
That's good to hear thank you.
I am really looking forward to getting it and using it at the end of the month once my new 970 arrives as this will be my first monitor upgrade in 6years
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Can some one explain to me what the difference is in the end result between adaptive vsync on the gpu and Gsync on the monitor?
They just seem to achieve the same thing to me.
They just seem to achieve the same thing to me.
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adaptive vsync just turns off vsync below the monitors refresh rate, so it gets rid of the stutter that vsync induces but it re-introduces tearing
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But tearing below the monitors refresh rate.... surely is rare?
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Very noticeable and I cant stand it personally and bought a gsync monitor and am eyeing up a 2nd, well worth the improvement to me
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I only seem to suffer bad tearing when I turn Vsync off and the FPS goes above the monitors refresh rate.
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Gsync Using Adaptive-Sync After all?
Mobile G-Sync Confirmed and Tested with Leaked Alpha Driver
Digging Deeper
So there we were, left with G-Sync somehow working on a regular laptop. It just sat there on the table in front of us, showing off its smoothly sweeping pendulum. We bounced around some working theories, one of which was that perhaps this laptop series had somehow shipped with development hardware that ASUS was working on – perhaps for a future G-Sync branded laptop. There was only one way to find that out, and in a blur of iFixit tools, this happened:
We followed the various traces and wires from the GPU output all the way to the LCD panel TCON (the circuitry that translates the incoming eDP signal and fans it out to drive the LCD pixels). Examining each and every component, we found no additional FPGA or ASIC. All hardware was what we would expect for a standard laptop:
We even peeled back the back of the LCD itself and examined every component. No G-Sync:
With the prototype G-Sync laptop theory dead and buried, we then moved to our other working theory. Perhaps the leaked ASUS driver *was* intended for an upcoming G-Sync laptop, but not this one, making this a case of accidental support – meaning that for whatever reason the driver *thought* there was a G-Sync panel in this laptop. It is entirely possible that NVIDIA uses a protocol very similar to the Adaptive Sync standard, and that the LG panel Tcon in this specific line of ASUS notebooks is able to handle that input in some scenarios as it is ‘close enough’ to what it can handle. If this were true, our knowledge of variable refresh rate technology tells is that the experience would not be ideal across the entire refresh rate range.
We know that you can’t simply flip a switch and let any LCD refresh variably at every possible rate. There are side effects to be dealt with, like the fact that pixels drift between refreshes, and waiting too long results in excessive flicker. Adding additional refresh cycles is possible, but that is not a simple solution as the additional refresh must be carefully timed as to not delay a subsequent frame being delivered by the GPU. Complex design problems like this have delayed AMD’s FreeSync launch, and it took a revision to NVIDIA’s own G-Sync module to get that timing just right.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Mobile-G-Sync-Confirmed-and-Tested-Leaked-Alpha-Driver
Mobile G-Sync Confirmed and Tested with Leaked Alpha Driver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7SYvgB6SZ4
So after watching and reading this I then remembered about this link I seen the other day.
Interesting read
http://gamenab.net/2015/01/26/truth...using-vesa-adaptive-sync-technology-freesync/
No Baiting or Trolling so you guys can Chill
am just passing on the News..
Mobile G-Sync Confirmed and Tested with Leaked Alpha Driver
Digging Deeper
So there we were, left with G-Sync somehow working on a regular laptop. It just sat there on the table in front of us, showing off its smoothly sweeping pendulum. We bounced around some working theories, one of which was that perhaps this laptop series had somehow shipped with development hardware that ASUS was working on – perhaps for a future G-Sync branded laptop. There was only one way to find that out, and in a blur of iFixit tools, this happened:
We followed the various traces and wires from the GPU output all the way to the LCD panel TCON (the circuitry that translates the incoming eDP signal and fans it out to drive the LCD pixels). Examining each and every component, we found no additional FPGA or ASIC. All hardware was what we would expect for a standard laptop:
We even peeled back the back of the LCD itself and examined every component. No G-Sync:
With the prototype G-Sync laptop theory dead and buried, we then moved to our other working theory. Perhaps the leaked ASUS driver *was* intended for an upcoming G-Sync laptop, but not this one, making this a case of accidental support – meaning that for whatever reason the driver *thought* there was a G-Sync panel in this laptop. It is entirely possible that NVIDIA uses a protocol very similar to the Adaptive Sync standard, and that the LG panel Tcon in this specific line of ASUS notebooks is able to handle that input in some scenarios as it is ‘close enough’ to what it can handle. If this were true, our knowledge of variable refresh rate technology tells is that the experience would not be ideal across the entire refresh rate range.
We know that you can’t simply flip a switch and let any LCD refresh variably at every possible rate. There are side effects to be dealt with, like the fact that pixels drift between refreshes, and waiting too long results in excessive flicker. Adding additional refresh cycles is possible, but that is not a simple solution as the additional refresh must be carefully timed as to not delay a subsequent frame being delivered by the GPU. Complex design problems like this have delayed AMD’s FreeSync launch, and it took a revision to NVIDIA’s own G-Sync module to get that timing just right.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Mobile-G-Sync-Confirmed-and-Tested-Leaked-Alpha-Driver
Mobile G-Sync Confirmed and Tested with Leaked Alpha Driver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7SYvgB6SZ4
So after watching and reading this I then remembered about this link I seen the other day.
Interesting read
http://gamenab.net/2015/01/26/truth...using-vesa-adaptive-sync-technology-freesync/
No Baiting or Trolling so you guys can Chill
am just passing on the News..
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Gamenab's article is full of holes. First off he claims he hacked some drivers; he diwnloaded some internal test drivers that got posted to a website by mistake. He claims it makes gsync work on any desktop monitor and posts a video of a game in windowed mode; gsync doesnt work in windowed mode and his vids clearly show hitching which shouldnt be there for gsync on.
Yes there is a driver coming that can enable "gsync" via eDP, but the laptops still need tuning as this demo driver causes black screen bugs and stuttering where gsync doesnt.
As laptop gpus have had access to variable vblank for quite some time, there is also nothing to say that current nvidia cards can or will support DP1.2a
Yes there is a driver coming that can enable "gsync" via eDP, but the laptops still need tuning as this demo driver causes black screen bugs and stuttering where gsync doesnt.
As laptop gpus have had access to variable vblank for quite some time, there is also nothing to say that current nvidia cards can or will support DP1.2a
You can count me as one of the one's who didn't read the article properly. In fact, I will go so far as to say I didn't really read it at all. I have been using the Swift now for several months and it is the best gaming experience I have ever had. Silky smooth games makes me a happy chappy. even if it worked perfectly on any monitor, I wouldn't care and all the better for those that can't justify/afford to upgrade to a new monitor.
Really looking forward to seeing how Freesync tallies up to G-Sync as well and will be watching that closely.