NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080Ti to be "available" on June 3rd, RTX 3070Ti on June 10th

[Game]

It's only been in the last couple of years where I've heard numerous representatives from numerous gaming companies referring to the widespread toxicity of their customer base and how it's affecting their decisions. What used to be a bit of "game rage" has flooded out into social media interactions, and then into their every day interactions. Digital existence and the "anonymity buffer" that it provides is rapidly becoming the new base-line for human interaction and as such there's less willingness for people to interact in a reasonable manner.

These days "nice guys finish last" has been taken to the extreme but, speaking personally, I think that's now being flipped on its head. So many people are being entitled ar***oles to each other than when someone talks to you in a polite way you are much more likely to stop and give them as much time and attention as they need. We're all human and at times it's hard to care about the kn***ead who is screaming into your ear.

Sadly it's the toxic nature of entitled people this filters through in game as well

 

[ScottiB]

Sadly it's the toxic nature of entitled people this filters through in game as well

You are getting the direction wrong m8. The gaming community was toxic before the social media existed. MANY years ago when multiplayer gaming was in its infancy my friends and I used to organise LAN events. Lovely atmosphere, lots of fun. Then we ONCE invited some guys who would go on to become Multiplay and the toxicity that they were spouting was enough for some of us to walk out. That sort of behaviour became the standard for many gamers, firmly grasping the 'Nice guys finish last' approach in the belief that if they were the loudest, rudest, bossiest person in the team that the rest of the guys would do what they were told to do. That's the root of much of the entitlement culture in my opinion. That's been going on for the last twenty years.

 

[Harlequin]

You are getting the direction wrong m8. The gaming community was toxic before the social media existed. MANY years ago when multiplayer gaming was in its infancy my friends and I used to organise LAN events. Lovely atmosphere, lots of fun. Then we ONCE invited some guys who would go on to become Multiplay and the toxicity that they were spouting was enough for some of us to walk out. That sort of behaviour became the standard for many gamers, firmly grasping the 'Nice guys finish last' approach in the belief that if they were the loudest, rudest, bossiest person in the team that the rest of the guys would do what they were told to do. That's been going on for the last twenty years.

oooh i know some of the people who ran Insomnia.... and yeah, punched one in the face a decade or 2 ago * for reasons*

 

[Rilot]

You are getting the direction wrong m8. The gaming community was toxic before the social media existed. MANY years ago when multiplayer gaming was in its infancy my friends and I used to organise LAN events. Lovely atmosphere, lots of fun. Then we ONCE invited some guys who would go on to become Multiplay and the toxicity that they were spouting was enough for some of us to walk out. That sort of behaviour became the standard for many gamers, firmly grasping the 'Nice guys finish last' approach in the belief that if they were the loudest, rudest, bossiest person in the team that the rest of the guys would do what they were told to do. That's the root of much of the entitlement culture in my opinion. That's been going on for the last twenty years.

Yup. It's why I stopped going to Insomnia after about the 6th or 7th one. Also why I quit TFC and CS about 15 years ago. There has always been toxicity in gaming.
Single player or MMO only for me these days.

 

[Worthy]

Yup. It's why I stopped going to Insomnia after about the 6th or 7th one. Also why I quit TFC and CS about 15 years ago. There has always been toxicity in gaming.
Single player or MMO only for me these days.

Wow, really? I never went to any of the Insomnia events but I just assumed everyone would calm down there and not rage. Was it just as bad in person?

 

[anderton46]

I think it's pretty natural for there to be rage/toxicity in the competitive aspect of gaming. But for casual gaming it is pretty odd for the atmosphere to be anything other than friendly.

That being said. My anger towards those who managed to pick up cards yesterday is still there.

 

[Game]

You are getting the direction wrong m8. The gaming community was toxic before the social media existed. MANY years ago when multiplayer gaming was in its infancy my friends and I used to organise LAN events. Lovely atmosphere, lots of fun. Then we ONCE invited some guys who would go on to become Multiplay and the toxicity that they were spouting was enough for some of us to walk out. That sort of behaviour became the standard for many gamers, firmly grasping the 'Nice guys finish last' approach in the belief that if they were the loudest, rudest, bossiest person in the team that the rest of the guys would do what they were told to do. That's the root of much of the entitlement culture in my opinion. That's been going on for the last twenty years.

Your proberly right thinking on it spent most of my gaming time playing with clans and guilds

 

[duckdodgersuk]

Anyone know if the Nvidia rtx 3080 ti founders edition sold in the UK? I know if it is, it will be like gold dust but all I see are other manufactures.

 

[Harlequin]

Yes, if you head to the nvidia UK shop it will link you to the *only* official supplier for nvidia FE msrp cards

 

[HRL]

It's only been in the last couple of years where I've heard numerous representatives from numerous gaming companies referring to the widespread toxicity of their customer base and how it's affecting their decisions. What used to be a bit of "game rage" has flooded out into social media interactions, and then into their every day interactions. Digital existence and the "anonymity buffer" that it provides is rapidly becoming the new base-line for human interaction and as such there's less willingness for people to interact in a reasonable manner. It's safe to say that the vast majority of us now go into every social situation with our guard up as the default.

These days "nice guys finish last" has been taken to the extreme but, speaking personally, I think that's now being flipped on its head. So many people are being entitled ar***oles to each other than when someone talks to you in a polite way you are much more likely to stop and give them as much time and attention as they need. We're all human and at times it's hard to care about the kn***ead who is screaming into your ear.

Indeed. It’s why my wife always gets me to deal with people as I’m polite and reasonable, the last of a dying breed it feels like these days.

Best get this thread back OT though before some entitled git complains that they didn’t manage to get a 3080Ti yesterday and it’s an outrage!

 

[The_Arbiter]

While off topic, even though these new cards are meh, i would love to see more casual multiplayer games be made. Halo 2 and 3 were mostly friendly places,but it did have ranked and non ranked playlists, dunno what Halo CE on PC was like at the time. At the same time i do remember Red Alert 2 having a lot of aggressive typing players.

 

[Obliter8]

I didn't get a 3080 Ti yesterday, and IT'S AN OUTRAGE

 

[HRL]

I didn't get a 3080 Ti yesterday, and IT'S AN OUTRAGE

See, that didn’t take long.

 

[beany_bot]

Neither of us know what sort of cost goes in to developing and producing these cards now vs five years ago. It's obvious on the surface that they are bigger now, they have much more cooling requirements now, they have more power phases now and hence more components are needed now. There's more memory chips now, the PCBs are more complex now and that's before you get to the physically larger GPU with four times the transistors vs just two generations ago. We'd have to be incredibly naive to believe that all of this can be delivered at a similar sort of price point, especially when global inflation over that time is about 12% too.

It's with all these factors in mind, that I get incredibly frustrated by the argument that "the GTX 1080 cost £600 so the RTX 3080 should to!"

Oh yeah those pesky complex PCBs! HAmmering profits so they are!

What a ridiculous argument. Not a good look when you patronise your customers.

 

[Azrael1]

Yup. It's why I stopped going to Insomnia after about the 6th or 7th one. Also why I quit TFC and CS about 15 years ago. There has always been toxicity in gaming.
Single player or MMO only for me these days.

same here I now find single player games soooo relaxing

 

[Obliter8]

That growth over the last couple of years!! I mean, presumably that could be just revenue and turnover increasing, rather than just GP, but I think we know it aint

Oh yeah those pesky complex PCBs! HAmmering profits so they are!

What a ridiculous argument. Not a good look when you patronise your customers.

 

[ahar]

Oh yeah those pesky complex PCBs! HAmmering profits so they are!

What a ridiculous argument. Not a good look when you patronise your customers.

That's performance of the stock you've graphed, not revenue and profit. As my corporate finance lecturer (a former city financier who became an academic after making her pile of cash) used to say, its all based on fear and greed, with little link to actual real world finances.

 

[Jagbama]

Hi all, been lurking here for a while but never posted - just a quick "thank you" to all who provided info regarding the 3080ti launch.

I had the same experience as many on here (unsuccessful despite doing all the things) but at least I had a chance due to your pointers. Thanks!

 

[ScottiB]

Not a good look when you patronise your customers.

OH GROW UP!!
I wasn't patronising anybody but I'll patronise you if you want! I have a bachelors degree in Electronic Engineering and have spent pretty much my entire professional life, twenty plus years, in this industry with my grubby mitts all over the hardware. I've probably pulled apart more graphics cards than you've ever seen and as such I'm quite well placed to judge the increase in complexity! If I was trying to mislead my customers I would NOT have said the one thing that YOU QUOTED!

Neither of us know what sort of cost goes in to developing and producing these cards now vs five years ago

Everything I said was just fact, it wasn't patronising or misleading. If you could find a single incorrect statement in that post I'm sure that you'd revel in posting it.

Quoting statistics which are five years out of date, which don't tell the full story...such as Nvidia's massive investment into diversifying into other markets such as AI, IOT, Automotive, medical research, cloud computing etc...IS probably heavily misleading though.

it's clear from your recent post history that you're an angry, frustrated little fella, but don't put words into my mouth because you make yourself look silly.
You see THAT is patronising!

 

[JediFragger]

it's clear from your recent post history that you're an angry, frustrated little fella

Well known on these forums m8 esp this section, goes away for a few months at a time thankfully play nice - Z.