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*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

VegasBaby said:
I believe they bin every 3090 chip they receive and they put them in all their cards based on how they perform. The Tuf, the Strix, the no-brand, the one they send to EK that only has dual power connectors. The whole thing. Same as MSI is binning, EVGA is binning.

The only thing I'm expecting is that the Strix OC 3090 has clocks the same as on the box at a minimum which is good enough for me, I'm happy to pay that premium to get at minimum what it says on the box.
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Nope you are wrong in your belief. Asus arent binning at all. EVGA might be as they now have their kingpin but it will just be a case of any chip which fails the kingpin test would still pass the ftw3 ultra test so could go into any card.

They cant make the cards fast enough so no point binning the 30% really good chips as the 60% average chips all pass the strix boost levels as well. Even the 10% really poor chips pass oc stric boost clock speeds.

So its easy for manufacturers, they can put any chip in any card. Its only if they have some high end speed binned card like the kingpin that they need to actually test and speed bin chips.

It costs money to speed bin. Asus dont need to and since the strix oc sells for £30 to £50 more than the strix then every card they make will pass the strix OC test so they may as well sell them all as that. And orders for the oc version are about 4 or 5 times the none oc version so they have a bigger order book to fulfill.

For generations now eveybody knows there is no point whatsover to pay for a oc version of any card as the none oc version will clock at least the oc version minimum.

I cant believe people still swallow the marketing rubbish.
 
Greebo said:
Nope you are wrong in your belief. Asus arent binning at all.
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I think you're misunderstanding my interpretation of binning. I am not suggesting they are taking the top 1% of chips and putting those only in Strix 3090 OC cards. I am saying they check the speed capabilities on every chip they receive (which they themselves said is true and which you quoted earlier). Any chips that can't meet the clocks of a 3090 Strix (non-OC or OC) will undoubtedly be put into a lower end card. Asus has an entire range some of which have clocks identical to the FE's. They're not going to just throw chips in the trash.

And if they were confident all the chips could become Strix 3090 then why are they checking their speed at all? - They can't make the claim that all the chips they tested reached the speeds necessary for a Strix 3090 OC unless they tested them. GamersNexus also did a tour of MSI's factory and showed this binning process where they use a press mounted socketable logic board and test each chip very rapidly.
 
lordhawkwind said:
Not having a go at anyone, I'm just curious as to why there is such brand loyalty to an AIB? I bought a 3090 yesterday for 10% over MSRP and a few brands were freely available without all the hassle of trying to beat the bots. No one seems to be selling Asus cards so there's obviously an issue with Asus 3090/3080's too. Personally I'm brand agnostic and maybe I've been lucky with the cards I've owned I've never had any problems. A 3090 is a 3090 no? Buy one now or wait until February well that's up to the individual I guess.
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The Asus Strix OC has the highest boost clock due to its effective 500W power limit. It *should* be the fastest and most overclockable (on Watercooling of course).
 
VegasBaby said:
I think you're misunderstanding my interpretation of binning. I am not suggesting they are taking the top 1% of chips and putting those only in Strix 3090 OC cards. I am saying they check the speed capabilities on every chip they receive (which they themselves said is true and which you quoted earlier). Any chips that can't meet the clocks of a 3090 Strix (non-OC or OC) will undoubtedly be put into a lower end card. Asus has an entire range some of which have clocks identical to the FE's. They're not going to just throw chips in the trash.

And if they were confident all the chips could become Strix 3090 then why are they checking their speed at all? - They can't make the claim that all the chips they tested reached the speeds necessary for a Strix 3090 OC unless they tested them. GamersNexus also did a tour of MSI's factory and showed this binning process where they use a press mounted socketable logic board and test each chip very rapidly.
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They arent but all cards strix oc of TUF non oc have to be tested for a few days. My point is it doesnt matter to asus which board they put which chip into, every chip will pass on every board at their set boosts. They obvious check every card they make TUF non oc to strix OC but thats just a card test. EVERY chip from Nvidia will pass in every card Asus makes.

But you have the same chance of getting a golden 2100Mhz chip in a Asus TUF none OC as you have in a strix oc. The same chance of having a lemon and getting a chip that wont go past 1900Mhz even with 480W through it.

Colin Dyckes said:
The Asus Strix OC has the highest boost clock due to its effective 500W power limit. It *should* be the fastest and most overclockable (on Watercooling of course).
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ANd the reality is that is isnt always. Yes the 480W bios helps even if they have lemons for chips but it doesnt guarantee that they are the fastest or overclock better than any random 2 power pin card. That would only happen if they were speed binning them which they arent. WHy waste time speed binning the chips from Nvidia, they all do the same. 30% arre the best, 60% are average and 10% are poor but even a poor chip will pass at the overlock boost the asus strix is set at esp with all they power from the bios.
 
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Strangely (or not) I noticed a competitor had an EVGA (not sure on the variant) 3090 for almost £1900, in stock yesterday. I accidentally left the tab open on my iPad and refreshed it today, the stock reads 0 but the page now says product discontinued and no longer shows as a pre-order, or within the search results which I found odd.
 
Dazflash said:
Hey ordered the vision this morning said 1 instock think I will get much luck actually being the only one who purchased it?
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Ah so you got the 2nd one then, I ordered before midnight the day before when 2 in stock, not received mine yet or been told if I'll even be getting it, was in touch with the twitter team after the cs wasted over an hour of my day, checked on the order and said it's printed waiting to be picked, said they should find out tomorrow (today now) if enough will come in as they've been oversold. You had anymore luck?
 
Managed to get some info on my vision order, they did oversell the item so when it said it was in stock it wasn't and I'm now on a pre-order list, asked if there was an option to swap for another card and the only one they could offer was a palitt, very annoyed is an understatement, they shouldn't be allowed to do this, I ordered everything else for my build after seeing I'd got something "in stock" so now I'm either going to have to return everything and give up or wait til next year, what a waste of my time and money, not happy at all
 
Matt72033 said:
The competition just offered me an MSI suprim instead of the strix.
Think I’ll be holding out seeing as I have the strix water block waiting to go
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Similar sort of dilemma as in I would cancel this 3090 strix Oc from overclockers instantly and buy an FE card right which is actually available now if I didn't have a EK block and backplate sitting here for the Strix:rolleyes: could return the strix block or sell it on only to jump in another preorder queue for an FE waterblock
:mad: Nice to not hear a single thing about the 3090 strix stock situation at overclockers even though the competitor managed to bag 30 to 40 units this week ... they must be using a special port that gives them priority over oc :rolleyes:
 
Another retailer had the FTW3 at 1999. Madness.
I've noticed that my GigaByte Aorus 3090 Xtreme has the same standard boost speed as the Strix OC. Middle fan isn't working, but will be replaced by a waterblock as soon as EK make them (add-on fan in the meantime as GigaByte support haven't answered in 2 weeks).
Seriously considering cancelling the 3090 Strix OC order now as it seems only equal to the Aorus Xtreme I already have.
Getting up to 2085MHz depending on game, but I usually leave it at 2000.
 
This is all well and good for most and the info is great (thx) if your card is on the list but no mention of asus 3090 tuf non oc? or have i missed it? it never gets a mention

I literally started to post here to say no updates and then my skype pinged and we have an update:

50x Asus 3090 Strix OC
10x Asus 3090 Strix NONE OC



But that is all I am afraid guys and as most suppliers won't be around next week and I myself won't be around much either, taking leave for Christmas I shall post below all the outstanding stock we are still owed that is either out on delivery, arrived in our warehouse awaiting booking in or and I hope not lost:

30x Asus 3090 TUF OC
18x Gigabyte 3090 Gaming OC
10x Gigabyte 3090 Vision
10x Gigabyte 3090 Master
35x KFA2 3090
Inno3D, all models due in small numbers on 3090


86x Asus 3080 TUF NONE OC
69x Asus 3080 TUF OC
8x Asus 3080 Strix NONE OC
10x Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC
28x Gigabyte 3080 Vision
6x Gigabyte 3080 Master
24x Gigabyte 3080 Extreme
14x Inno3D 3080 Frostbite

58x Asus 3070 Dual NONE OC
55x MSI 3070 Gaming X
70x Palit 3070 Gaming Pro NONE OC
10x Palit 3070 Gaming Pro OC
6x Palit 3070 Gamerock NONE OC
6x Palit 3070 Gamerock OC


All the above is still owed on past shipments I already posted in this thread, with any luck over Christmas they shall arrive and be booked into stock.
 
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