There is only one thing that will bring the 1080 down from its £600 perch and that is time. Non FE card are going to be the same price as the FE cards. Stop believing Nvidias lies! Did you believe it would run at 67 degrees under load? How did that go for you? throttling much.
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** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?
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I'll take you up on that bet
But in all seriousness I'm not saying I know for sure I'm right. Just saying if some cards do stick to the $599 MSRP in the US, we should have cards for around £550 here.
What have you been sniffing?
Taking exchange rate and VAT into account, the FE cards were marked up by ~£50.
Following this, we should be looking at AIB cards around £540.
I'm not saying all AIB cards will be low, but c'mon, don't just pull numbers out your ass
EDIT: Well his comment was removed lol, but still, we should see cards around £540, which is what myself and a lot of people were predicting a week or so ago. Now the EVGA Hybrid? That's the price that'll be interesting
£540 won't happen, not yet. There's an outside chance an inferior blower like the Galax will be around that price, but certainly nothing with a fancy 3 fan cooler and more than one 8-pin power connector. Nvidia are have done such a dishonest thing with this MSRP of $599... first of all, it's SUGGESTED which most people don't seem to realise, no requirement whatsoever to release a card at that price. On top of that they seem to expect Nvidia and AIB's to commit economical suicide by sacrificing the FE within days of release by releasing superior cards that are £50-75 cheaper?! The FE would die a quick death if that happened, which simply won't be allowed.
Stop saying it will be a lot, what is the point? Just wait and see tomorrow.
SURELY the lower end cards will see a market where most people are not willing to go that high on a GPU, for example you can get 980ti's with good coolers for 480-520. Then the gigabyte xtreme or classified etc are much more. I mean lower end cards with ok coolers from less known brands, not the blower cards. The 599 MSRP on the 1080 is lower than the MSRP on the 980ti.
SURELY the lower end cards will see a market where most people are not willing to go that high on a GPU, for example you can get 980ti's with good coolers for 480-520. Then the gigabyte xtreme or classified etc are much more. I mean lower end cards with ok coolers from less known brands, not the blower cards. The 599 MSRP on the 1080 is lower than the MSRP on the 980ti.
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If the 1080 had followed the same approach as the 980Ti I would wholeheartedly agree, but the difference here is that Nvidia are playing sneaky by positioning the FE as a premium product with a premium price tag, supposedly above that of the AIB cards. That certainly wasn't the case with the 980Ti or any GPU before it. We are in uncharted territory here, and it seems unthinkable and totally illogical from an economic point of view that come next week people will have the choice between a basic reference card at £615, or a faster, quieter, cooler and better OC'ing custom card at around £550... heck, even if they end up at £614, it still will see sales of the FE plummet.
Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE these cards to come in cheap, but I just fail to see any economic sense in that outcome, not from Nvidia or the AIB's perspective anyway. Great for us obviously, but they aren't a charity lol!
I don't know, but I think the vast majority of people will not be happy above about 550, and will wait or get a 1070. There are some people who just don't care and want it asap, but I don't think the majority of people are like that. On the steam stats by far the most people are on 1080p with an XX70 card. It is possible Nvidia were telling the truth about the FE being a more premium card and keeping it available etc.
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People paid it for the 980ti and they will pay it for the 1080 they always have and always will. Nvidia know it and take full advantage.
What alternative do people realistically have if they want the best performance without the ball ache of sli and when it comes down to it the card performs better than the £1000 titan x and the still £550 980ti
he never got it to 2.75Ghz from memory and said the issue about not getting better overclocks was lack of power not cooling.
But the 980ti was less than the FE when it was released, had an MSRP of 649 vs 599 on the non FE. And it was a high end full size card.
Ok well we will see, a) its a dishonest move to raise the MSRP b) its a premium product that will stay around for life of 1080
a) I will be irritated
b) Not a problem
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450, I think that is very unlikely, 500-550 seems more likely, over 600 just taking ****.
It's 100% a)
It's plain to see already the FE is NOT a premium product, and will easily be trumped by the AIB cards, therefore why people think they'll be £50-75 cheaper is beyond me.
Typo by me I think it was around 2.175 but you need to watch the video again because he tried adding more power he down clocked the memory and pushed that voltage into the GPU with zero gain other than a non game stable clock of 2.2ghz
It does look quite nice though and probably more to manufacture than the normal reference, also they said they want to keep it around for life of 1080 etc. I don't know we will see. But I think another $50 on the MSRP of $599 would have been more reasonable than $100.
Yes well I am just trying to have some sort of optimism that at least some of the 1080 cards will be acceptable !!
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I can say quite confidently we won't get any £450 cards released tomorrow and I think £500 cards are unlikely.
If we see cards from £530 I'd be quite pleasantly surprised. I have a feeling my AIB cards are going to be over the £600 limit I've set myself.
The missus is already questioning my purchase decision, if I tell her it's going to be £700 then I think she'd slap me!
Just do what I'm doing and don't tell her. If my wife knew I was spending £700 on a graphics card and waterblock and I think she would divorce me