Caporegime
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You are wrong here.
The 1080ti was £600-£1500 over it's life.
The 2070 super was £400 in December and launched at £500 upwards.
So faster, better card and at least 1/3rd cheaper.
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Nvidia prices the norm?
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You are wrong here.
The 1080ti was £600-£1500 over it's life.
The 2070 super was £400 in December and launched at £500 upwards.
So faster, better card and at least 1/3rd cheaper.
+1
Soldato
Um, no. Just no.
1080Ti launches at 600-700
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review
2080 (non Ti) lunches at 700-800
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13346/the-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-2080-founders-edition-review
...and generally produced the same FPS as the 1080Ti. More money, same FPS.
The super stuff cam LATER, after AMD brought Navi...THEN Nvidia brought us something that looked more like a modest generational upgrade.
Your "life of the card" reference is a red herring. Nvidia didn't set mining prices. They made their products and stated their prices. -And I have posted them and their reviews from a reputable web site.
I'm not sure why you seem to be trying to revise history here. Look at the reviews, the prices, the benchmarks.
Our money went nowhere UNTIL AMD forced Nvidia to compete.
Caporegime
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it's not a red herring. prices went up.
also with no competition nvidia can set whatever price they want if they have a monopoly. it's all relative.
if i own the mobile phone market and i now say new phones are £5K then that is the price. i don't care if the old phone did the same for £1K.
prices came down when AMD became competitive on both power and pricing.
Soldato
And then there's the Gamers Nexus review which puts it rather plainly:
"Conclusion: Is the RTX 2080 Worth It?
No -- not yet.
The card is fine, and what nVidia is trying to do is commendable and, we think, an eventual future for gaming technology. That does not mean that it's worth the price at present, however. The RTX 2080 is poor value today. NVidia's own GTX 1080 Ti offers superior value at $150 less, in some cases, or $100 less on average. The cards perform equivalently, and yet the 1080 Ti is cheaper and still readily available (and with better models, too). "
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...ders-edition-review-benchmarks-vs-gtx-1080-ti
The fact that Nvidia "can charge what they want" is more of an excuse for *why* Turing's price/performance was no better than Pascal's at launch....rather than rebuttal to my point.
"Conclusion: Is the RTX 2080 Worth It?
No -- not yet.
The card is fine, and what nVidia is trying to do is commendable and, we think, an eventual future for gaming technology. That does not mean that it's worth the price at present, however. The RTX 2080 is poor value today. NVidia's own GTX 1080 Ti offers superior value at $150 less, in some cases, or $100 less on average. The cards perform equivalently, and yet the 1080 Ti is cheaper and still readily available (and with better models, too). "
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...ders-edition-review-benchmarks-vs-gtx-1080-ti
The fact that Nvidia "can charge what they want" is more of an excuse for *why* Turing's price/performance was no better than Pascal's at launch....rather than rebuttal to my point.
Soldato
It's pointless trying to reason with him, I gave up. He keeps using the prices during a mining blip to argue his point.
You know, and I know, you compare msrp to msrp on launch between generations to determine price to performance. You don't use price changes caused by external market factors in that equation.
Soldato
To be honest, claiming a 1080ti cost £1500 is adding nothing to the conversation. 
This is way off. 1070 was as fast as the 980ti but cost more than the 980 (£450ish on release), the 970 launched at £260. the 1070 was nowhere near the 970s price point.
1080 was 30%~ faster than the 980ti but also launched at a more expensive price than the 980ti, nevermind the 980 price. You could get a 980ti for roughly £550 on launch, while the 1080 was more like £700 thanks to the founders edition jacking up prices.
my 1070 was £380 within two weeks of launch.
I resented paying that as it was £100 more than my 970 at launch.
if the 3070 is less than £500 and is about the same as a 2080s I won’t moan.
Soldato
980Ti Launch price: $649
https://www.anandtech.com/show/9306/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review
1080 Launch price: $599-$699 AIB/Founders
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review
980 launch price: $550
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review
1070 Launch Price :$379-$449 AIB/Founders
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review
Soldato
All we can deduce from this, is that the last decent value series of Nvidia cards were the 9 series
After that it all started to go downhill, and fast!
After that it all started to go downhill, and fast!
if AMD pull another masterful mid range card launch yet again then yes the top end prices will continue, the fun starts with if AMD do launch a fast top end card on par with the 3080ti and just match prices then we will never see much movement.
if theres no competition prices will only ever go one way.
This +1
My feeling is that Nvidia will release the 3000 series cards this spring for comedy money (ie £1000+ ) before dropping prices next year in response to the new PS5/XBSX consoles coming out at Xmas.
Might as well gouge PC consumers whilst they have no alternatives and will pay top dollar for the best hardware available....
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3080ti to start @ £1300.
day 1 purchase. come at me
To be honest, claiming a 1080ti cost £1500 is adding nothing to the conversation.
it’s hilarious...
Soldato
The price in a vacuum isn't necessarily an issue. If, for example, it was 120% faster than a 2080Ti, I would spend $1300 on that next year.
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This is the worry. If AMD do actually get competitive they will likely just match Nvidia price instead of resetting price point.
The amount of people that say prices will go up is crazy. Music to Jensen’s ears as it suggests they don’t mind.
Prices will not be going up in my opinion. 3080Ti will be cheaper and anything below that will probably remain similar. I can see the 3070 landing at £450-£500 and offering 2080 Ti performance but with better RT. That is the card I will get.
Prices will not be going up in my opinion. 3080Ti will be cheaper and anything below that will probably remain similar. I can see the 3070 landing at £450-£500 and offering 2080 Ti performance but with better RT. That is the card I will get.