NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

[Hostile_18]

I don't think anyone is saying its good or bad, just a grey area early Suprim and Astral users have to consider.

On the plus side, plot twists galore. Just when we thought every avenue had been talked about to death!

 

[nomadd]

Remember when you could donate to the Church in RPG games and all your evil deeds would be forgiven!

Donating to Trump is a lot more expensive. Same result, though.

 

[DizzyZ]

I did consult with close friends "hey I have this item I really want, but I can sell it for a lot that is a really significant amount of money for me what shall I do" and I think everyone said sell it. I get it though we as gamers a passionate and we are all excited about a new launch and its been a crappy launch. Everyone who knows me knows I'm a gamer/tech person first, but it would feel a little bad knowing playing my 5090 now meant giving up so much, when I can just wait.

Again I could have not said anything, but personally I think there is a legitimate decision to be made for early adopters. I did post a picture of my card, because I am excited to get it and I do want to give it a blast so bad lol that's why its high price or nothing.

Edit I'll leave it at that though, because I don't want to detract from others enjoyment of the thread on what can be an emotive subject.

Again, this isn't any justification, regardless of what your friends said, the moment you put the card on ebay, meant you're scalping and contributing to artifical scarcity, so you can understand why a lot of people are disappointed in this thread.

In the end, you're profiting off of someone else's needs and no matter how you spin it, it's not morally/ethically justifiable in my opinion regardless if most people can understand why you did it.

 

[DizzyZ]

Hmm mixed feelings! It’s undeniable that intending to buy something in low supply and then attempting to sell it for a higher price is undoubtedly seeking to exploit a situation.

Is that bad? Well, no. It can be logical and it’s a pillar of sound financial practice. Am I surprised that people are annoyed? Also no. Many people are sitting on ye olde cards, so it’s an exciting purchase… it ‘hurts’ to see anything that is slowing down a process.

When annoyed, it’s your own job to manage that annoyance… but the seller also needs to ride the wave of being potentially seen as a pest.

Then as a minor point, solely intending to buy to resell doesn’t seem like what he’s done. But I expect he’s not someone that’s upgrading from a ‘ye olde’ card… can’t remember

Personally, the only annoying thing for me is desperately wanting some forum reviews / temps - get on with it @Hostile_18 I’m chomping here

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You can't argue that it's not "bad". Anyone who partakes in this is profiting at the expense of someone else's enthusiasm/needs and directly favours those who are richer (yes you can argue anyone spending £2k on a gpu is well off) but the point still stands

 

[Hostile_18]

Again, this isn't any justification, regardless of what your friends said, the moment you put the card on ebay, meant you're scalping and contributing to artifical scarcity, so you can understand why a lot of people are disappointed in this thread.

In the end, you're profiting off of someone else's needs and no matter how you spin it, it's not morally/ethically justifiable in my opinion regardless if most people can understand why you did it.

Yeah I get that, but I think the problem does start at the top. I don't know how much money you do or don't have but when you are in that situation where its get say 5.5k or enjoy your graphics card for that much money its a tougher moral quandary. To me waiting a few months even 6 months isn't that much of a big deal, certainly not to give up that kind of money or feel bad knowing how much that graphics card has really cost me, because of rising market value.

To those that would give up that money, my hats off to you, but all our living circumstances are different and what applies to one person doesn't necessarily apply to another. This would be like 4 months plus wages for me...

 

[Hostile_18]

You can't argue that it's not "bad". Anyone who partakes in this is profiting at the expense of someone else's enthusiasm/needs and directly favours those who are richer (yes you can argue anyone spending £2k on a gpu is well off) but the point still stands

Where do you stop with that kind of thinking though? Any company with a monopoly? Landlords who buy to let, pharmaceutical companies etc. A GPU isn't a basic necessity.

 

[hlennie]

I dont care I can still game and like the 3090 I can wait for the 5090 to have more reasonable stock. Id sell it too if offered silly money.

There are no such thing as scalpers just idiots who cant wait to have the newest and brightest no one forces these people to buy at silly prices and if they do be it on their heads

Collectly we all knew this was going to happen with stock but most cant wait we supplied the demand we drive up the prices one day we may learn let the dust settle then buy .

Those extra frames are not going to change the game your playing faster yes but still the same game

 

[antixtreme]

Hostile18 If you really want to make profit off it. Sell it like 3400 3500. Then wait couple months buy back at 2000 or just buy 9070xt.
There is no right or wrong in re-selling it. Just some advance, play it low

 

[SuperElectric]

Got to be careful posting that '£6K' GPU, don't skimp out on the insurance

Fully insured at £6K with DPD, the cost comes up as £403.77!

 

[CornyOC]

Conveniently I offer a complimentary box decluttering service exclusively for those that like to enjoy haribo in a calming environment

And you'd just let him have all the Haribo?

 

[CornyOC]

Seems there was a large dump of MSI trio RTX 5090 today on another site as I can see from reddit, and other places and they seem to be making their way to eBay already.

Scalpers, you never beat them.

What's funny is that it seems these scalpers are working harder to get those GPUs than normal customers. They must be desperate for that few hundred quid.

 

[Sedgey123]

I think anyone could have predicted that 5090's were going to go for a stupid price on the auction site. It was well documented before release and even posted by Gibbo that they had less than 10, so it was easy to tell that other retailers would be the same.
So everything points that it was pre-mediated, including your own conversations, that you were going to put it up for sale and get as much profit as you can.

You say your declining offers of 4.4k, this isn't because you are taking the high ground, you just want as much profit as you possibley can get.

Everyone can see the 'logic' behind your arguement on why you are selling it but when your on an enthusiast forum, it is hoped for and kind of expected that when you are lucky enough to receive such a product that it is going to be enjoyed by yourself. Especially when there is plenty of people here that also save hard to be able to afford such products and either can't get one or are in a massive pre-order queue.

 

[Hostile_18]

Hostile18 If you really want to make profit off it. Sell it like 3400 3500. Then wait couple months buy back at 2000 or just buy 9070xt.
There is no right or wrong in re-selling it. Just some advance, play it low

That's where my gamer side kicks in and I'd rather keep and enjoy the card, its only where it gets financially silly to keep it I question it. I've been planning this purchase since November!

One thing that's helped and made me realize 5k is more important than 30% extra frames is during the break using a temp card I've had a brilliant time on a 3050. I'd say I've gotten about 80% of my 4090 experience on it, not in absolute performance terms obviously, but just pure enjoyment. Once you are gaming and especially on a oled where any picture looks great, you really don't mind too much about the hardware.

 

[SuperElectric]

You say your declining offers of 4.4k, this isn't because you are taking the high ground, you just want as much profit as you possibley can get.

Exactly! What's the lowest he would take? £5K? £5.5K?

Just put it up for auction, see what happens.

 

[Hostile_18]

I think anyone could have predicted that 5090's were going to go for a stupid price on the auction site. It was well documented before release and even posted by Gibbo that they had less than 10, so it was easy to tell that other retailers would be the same.
So everything points that it was pre-mediated, including your own conversations, that you were going to put it up for sale and get as much profit as you can.

You say your declining offers of 4.4k, this isn't because you are taking the high ground, you just want as much profit as you possibley can get.

Everyone can see the 'logic' behind your arguement on why you are selling it but when your on an enthusiast forum, it is hoped for and kind of expected that when you are lucky enough to receive such a product that it is going to be enjoyed by yourself. Especially when there is plenty of people here that also save hard to be able to afford such products and either can't get one or are in a massive pre-order queue.

I do get that. I think if you times your monthly wage times 4 (so it's as appealing to you as it is to me) you might perhaps see from a end user perspective why it's given some of us food for thought. Could you take the moral high ground for that?

Plus its not like I just got lucky. Sold my 4090 in November for optimal pricing, took the day off work launch day, and did all necessary prep to get one (and it wasn't dead on 2pm it took an hour and a half). If you read my threads I started from Coil Whine to the Partner Showcase and the hundreds of posts in these forums recently that I have the passion, drive and excitement.

At the end of the day I have to make the right decision for me.

 

[Hostile_18]

Exactly! What's the lowest he would take? £5K? £5.5K?

Just put it up for auction, see what happens.

But I've explained that I'd rather keep it?

 

[Stumble Bum]

I don't think anyone is saying its good or bad, just a grey area early Suprim and Astral users have to consider.

On the plus side, plot twists galore. Just when we thought every avenue had been talked about to death!

You've sold 3 4090's on that ebay account. This isn't a one-off opportunistic moment. Clearly you're happy to be a scalper whilst criticising retailer's prices. You're just a hypocrite really who came on the forums to show off a 5090 that you had little intention of using.

 

[Jasseh]

Got to be careful posting that '£6K' GPU, don't skimp out on the insurance

Fully insured at £6K with DPD, the cost comes up as £403.77!

Lose a chunk to the tax man too if there really is £3k profit.

 

[UKGigaProb]

What's funny is that it seems these scalpers are working harder to get those GPUs than normal customers. They must be desperate for that few hundred quid.

Agreed, I just missed another drop on the other site in question of PNY RTX 5090 OC a few hours ago, need a tracker lol.

Let's see if they land on eBay.

 

[Hostile_18]

You've sold 3 4090's on that ebay account. This isn't a one-off opportunistic moment. Clearly you're happy to be a scalper whilst criticising retailer's prices. You're just a hypocrite really who came on the forums to show off a 5090 that you had little intention of using.

If you've seen my post history you'll see the 4090s have never made a profit nor been sold to make a profit. Also I've done more on the forum to help the community than you ever have, including with this launch.

But facts don't matter to you do they not if it gets in the way of your righteous anger.