NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[Emlyn_Dewar]

5090 crushes 7900xtx by 124% in deepkek

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5090 Dominates Inference Performance On DeepSeek's R1 AI Models, Surpassing AMD's RX 7900 XTX By Huge Margins

NVIDIA's newest GeForce RTX 5090 sees inference performance on the DeepSeek R1 much faster than AMD's RX 7900 XTX.

wccftech.com

Hardly surprising. I'd also hope so, for the price difference.

 

[Personality+]

Careful, you'll get accused of working for Digital Foundry around here with that kind of praise.

Guilty

 

[TNA]

The way I see it a card is only for 2 years give or take, so it’s not like a life decision. Appreciate everyone isn’t in the position to be able to upgrade every generation but if that’s the case the 5080 will still be a huge upgrade over a 10 or 20 series card. When I went from 2080 Ti to 3080 it was similar as downgraded from 11GB to 10GB but I survived it as I’m sure others would too lol

Agreed. I am in the same boat. Tend to upgrade every generation so it is not a problem.

Hell, I might even keep my measly 12GB 4070Ti until 6070Ti arrives. My main reason is I already got a big backlog of games that will take me no less than a year to get through at the rate I am going and they all run fine on my card.

There are a bunch on my wishlist also, and they all run fine on 12GB. So no shortage of games to play until next gen.

 

[Rogueywon]

With so few 5090s in the wild, I suppose it's too early for us to know whether the "melty connector" issue is showing up again?

 

[Grim5]

With so few 5090s in the wild, I suppose it's too early for us to know whether the "melty connector" issue is showing up again?

Reddit will be first to know, nothing yet

It's worth remembering the melty connections on rtx4000 affected far less than 1% of cards and the only reason the issue seemed to be common was because Nvidia sold millions of the things. And with so few rtx5000 cards in existence, it's going to take time for someone to run into a burnt connector

 

[TNA]

Is that your youtube channel grim?

 

[chrisgough]

Agreed. I am in the same boat. Tend to upgrade every generation so it is not a problem.

Hell, I might even keep my measly 12GB 4070Ti until 6070Ti arrives. My main reason is I already got a big backlog of games that will take me no less than a year to get through at the rate I am going and they all run fine on my card.

There are a bunch on my wishlist also, and they all run fine on 12GB. So no shortage of games to play until next gen.

My 4070 FE is still a cracking card so can imagine the 4070 Ti is even better. I think 12GB VRAM is a non issue unless you make it to be. It’s all clever marketing and product positioning by Nvidia to tempt people to their halo consumer GPU. Don’t get me wrong if I could have acquired a 5090 instead of my 5080 I would probably be telling everyone that 24 GB vram is for peasants but here’s me on 16GB and it’s all good lol

 

[TNA]

My 4070 FE is still a cracking card so can imagine the 4070 Ti is even better. I think 12GB VRAM is a non issue unless you make it to be. It’s all clever marketing and product positioning by Nvidia to tempt people to their halo consumer GPU. Don’t get me wrong if I could have acquired a 5090 instead of my 5080 I would probably be telling everyone that 24 GB vram is for peasants but here’s me on 16GB and it’s all good lol

Yep. Grim and mrk come to mind

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

Careful, you'll get accused of working for Digital Foundry around here with that kind of praise.

Or just not very latency sensitive. The new FG is better for sure, but there is still one frame being held back for the interpolation. Yes, this is a hill I will die on for first person games

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

With so few 5090s in the wild, I suppose it's too early for us to know whether the "melty connector" issue is showing up again?

You’ve only gone and said it!! Bound to happen now isn’t it

 

[Personality+]

Or just not very latency sensitive. The new FG is better for sure, but there is still one frame being held back for the interpolation. Yes, this is a hill I will die on for first person games

Yeah could come down to the individual...some people can't see 120frames

others can't feel fake frames

 

[Proc]

The only reason I’m thinking of “upgrading” from my 4070ti Super is warranty along with the 20% performance bump.

I bought it at a good price 2nd hand on eBay, but obviously there’s no warranty, touch wood it’s great but if anything goes wrong I’m stuffed. As it is I can probably get about £500 for it, so is it worth the piece of mind for £500?

 

[hornetstinger]

The only reason I’m thinking of “upgrading” from my 4070ti Super is warranty along with the 20% performance bump.

I bought it at a good price 2nd hand on eBay, but obviously there’s no warranty, touch wood it’s great but if anything goes wrong I’m stuffed. As it is I can probably get about £500 for it, so is it worth the piece of mind for £500?

nah spend it on something else. A bigger TV. A Sound system.

 

[ICDP]

The only reason I’m thinking of “upgrading” from my 4070ti Super is warranty along with the 20% performance bump.

I bought it at a good price 2nd hand on eBay, but obviously there’s no warranty, touch wood it’s great but if anything goes wrong I’m stuffed. As it is I can probably get about £500 for it, so is it worth the piece of mind for £500?

No. If it fails just buy whatever is available.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

nah spend it on something else. A bigger TV. A Sound system.

OLED monitor

 

[hornetstinger]

OLED monitor

Speakers?

 

[Halliphax]

Or just not very latency sensitive. The new FG is better for sure, but there is still one frame being held back for the interpolation. Yes, this is a hill I will die on for first person games

No arguments from me I just like being a windup

 

[CornyOC]

Hardly surprising. I'd also hope so, for the price difference.

In most raster cases it will be more like 50-70% gain over 7900XTX. Then you will have better upscaler/frame gen at your hand to play with (which is a hit or miss depending on game), and of course, much better RT performance (if that's your thing).

 

[Personality+]

Or just not very latency sensitive. The new FG is better for sure, but there is still one frame being held back for the interpolation. Yes, this is a hill I will die on for first person games

Oh I should have added, not tried it in any multiplayer games (marvel rivals as an example) I played that natively, so even I'm avoiding using it in those situations, but should probably give it a spin.

 

[Boomstick777]

To be honest if I had known that the 50 series was such a poor uplift I would have kept my 4090, I sold it weeks before the reviews came out. My main reason behind selling it, is the fans on the Zotac 4090 AIRO extreme were horrible no coil whine but when they came on at 30% it was a mechanical noise which was off putting which in the end resulted in me using my older build with a 4070 FE more, as it was whisper quiet. I know some people said their Zotacs were fine but maybe as I had a launch day one there were issues (I’m not alone just search Reddit or YouTube) for this I would never buy a Zotac again, and yes I could have RMA’d it but I didn’t want to wait potentially 6 months without a card. My 3080 10GB was a PALIT and again not a bad card but had severe coil whine. The challenge is when you have bad experiences with card brands it limits your buying options. I’m happy as got the 2 slot SFF inno3d 5080. Its whisper quiet and stacks faster than my 4070 build. My preference was MSI or Asus but due to stock I wasn’t able to get one. My Asus 2080 Ti was a fantastic quality card!

You went from a 4090 to a 5080?