if its anything like the 4090s then all it did was change the fan profile AFAIR
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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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People who are buying a GPU now may not have needed it in 2022, there is new pc gamers joining the community everyday
All the models I've seen this gen the mode switches now also change the clocks
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I think it might only be the Astral that doesn’t … at least that’s what I remember in the pre-release blurb. Same performance, but different fan profile.
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Fair comment, I was just saying from my perspective spending over £1000 on a second hand GPU to me would be dead money almost waiting for it to break. But I guess people have different opinions and it’s their money to spend how they like!
Ah yep just had a look at the page and yes for the astral it only changes the fan. If it only changes the fan and not performance then you may as well leave it on the quiet mode
I never use these anyway; I always use afterburner to set a custom fan profile on all my cards
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I personally wouldn't pay £1000+ for a 2nd hand GPU either, but have we been in a situation like this before where the new 80 class card has been beaten by the previous 90.. we haven't and also the VRAM like it or not is a factor.. just because we have 1 game now that goes above 16GB (indiana Jones) at max settings doesn't mean we aren't going to have more before the next generation of GPU's. If the 5080 had 24GB Vram but was still slower than the 4090 then this would have still devalued the 4090 a lot more, but it hasn't and the 2nd best card unfortunately can only be got 2nd hand and some people are willing to pay that.
It's a physcological thing, i'm sure most of us brought a car from someone before and that comes with no warranty, we go look at it, test drive it and then buy it.. it doesn't stop it breaking 5 mins down the road. We can do the same with GPU's, make sure it works and then if willing take the risk.
Also warranties, it depends on who you ask and what you read.. but warranties on some AIB's are transferable.. there is plenty of cases (just google them) where people have claimed on warranty even though it's a 2nd hand card. Gigabyte and ASUS for example warranty the card and will warranty it from the date of purchase (if you have the invoice) or from when the card was manufactured if not.
We live in a time where we haven't really been before with GPU's and the market is showing that the 4090 is holding strong and more than likely will stay that way until either a 80Ti/Super is announced or as we get closer to the 6000 series.
It's a physcological thing, i'm sure most of us brought a car from someone before and that comes with no warranty, we go look at it, test drive it and then buy it.. it doesn't stop it breaking 5 mins down the road. We can do the same with GPU's, make sure it works and then if willing take the risk.
Also warranties, it depends on who you ask and what you read.. but warranties on some AIB's are transferable.. there is plenty of cases (just google them) where people have claimed on warranty even though it's a 2nd hand card. Gigabyte and ASUS for example warranty the card and will warranty it from the date of purchase (if you have the invoice) or from when the card was manufactured if not.
We live in a time where we haven't really been before with GPU's and the market is showing that the 4090 is holding strong and more than likely will stay that way until either a 80Ti/Super is announced or as we get closer to the 6000 series.
If you haven’t checked it out, ‘Fan Control’ is absolutely awesome for GPU, CPU and case fans.
I combines two profiles for my case fans so they ramp up depending on whichever is toastier: CPU or GPU. Hot CPU, they ramp up a little, hot GPU they ramp up more.
I find it to be better than Afterburner for controlling GPU fans as there are more adjustments for ‘time waiting before temp change’ etc to avoid spikes.
Worth a look!
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I'm surprised that used GPU's in general are so pricey nowadays, including 2nd hand. Some prices are so close to buying new. I guess similar boat to 5000 series, high demand means people will pay for whatever. Jenson prefers folks to buy new and line his leather pockets, instead of enabling folks to offload their 4090s, to then join a waiting list for elusive 5000 series cards.
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5080super will probably be 24GB vram
I'd be very surprised if when it finally does come that it doesn't equal the 4090. I think they'll target 4090 pretty much on vram and performance
Plenty not bothering and moving to consoles as well based on these prices and yes I am on the wait list for a 5090...
Yeah thats what's expected and i also imagine it would it match the 4090 but my point is that if the 5080 had 24GB Vram then this would have devalued the 4090 more, even if the 5080 stayed exactly the same performance it has now.
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I just redid my profiles in Fan Control since removing the GPU. It's a great piece of software!
Whilst the stock clocks may remain the same, you will probably find they won't 'boost' as high when using the quiet fan profile via the bios switch, since the boost speeds are determined by the temperature of the card (lower fan rpm = slightly higher temps = slightly lower boost speeds).
None of the high end cards are worth their msrp price let alone the pre scalped AIB stuff but people seem to pay it and and see overpaying as some kind of status symbol.
I grabbed a used 4090 for 1k in early 2024 with almost 2 years warranty left as I was given the original receipt. I wasn’t prepared to pay 1k for a 4080S and I didn’t have much confidence in the 5080 being faster than the 4090 due to the large performance gap.
Warranty runs out at the end of this year but with a 2% fail rate of GPUs I’d rather take my chances on that than a 5080 which is already struggling with VRAM on the latest games and will only get worse.
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Here's a Steel nomad benchmark of my Ventus 3X OC 5080 which is the cheapest 5080 with no power limit increase clocked to almost 3.1GHz.
www.3dmark.com
88.92 FPS, and according to Guru3d review that makes it 32.7% faster than a stock 4080 Super FE, and 4.3% slower than a stock 4090 in that benchmark.
www.guru3d.com
I scored 8 892 in Steel Nomad
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
88.92 FPS, and according to Guru3d review that makes it 32.7% faster than a stock 4080 Super FE, and 4.3% slower than a stock 4090 in that benchmark.
Review: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition (reference) (Page 24)
It is time to get into the more affordable (no I did not say cheap) GeForce RTX 5080.The price level of $999 certainly sites better. Armed with 84 streaming multiprocessors and a total of 10,752 CUDA cores (roughly half the core count of the RTX 5090) it features a sleek two-slot design.
www.guru3d.com