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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

The 5080 isn’t worth £1700, but a used 4090 isn’t worth £1200 either.

… to me anyway. But someone (… or something!) out these seems to be buying for these utterly captain insano prices.

It's not even worth a £1000 imo. Lol.

£799 max.

As for used 4090 prices. Big lol. People asking for looney prices.
 
That's OK. They'll just have to buy American GPUs made in the good 'ol USA!

I guess the intention, as other have stated, is to encourage foreign companies to setup fabs to setup in the US and to give an advantage to US companies like Intel. Time will tell if it works though....

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So the 5090s are not compatible with PCIE5 now, which is the reason for them getting bricked !

https://www.guru3d.com/story/troubleshooting-rtx-5090-black-screen-failures-switch-to-pcie-gen-40/

Well, not to play down the issue but your summary is misleading in 2 ways.

The 5090 is compatible with PCIE5, the issue arises when there is misalignment from the motherboard and/or bios. From the article:

It's not bricking, but PCie gen 5.0 incompatibility of the motherboard.

Hopefully fixable with some bios updates.
 
Its a long term strategy to get manufacturing done in the US. It will sting at first but will probably end up working.
It will likely never work because corporations will simply move to Vietnam (Nintendo already did with their production for USA) or other cheap country. USA is the last one their list as the most expensive to produce in.
 
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My card seems to be working fine, so assume it won’t “brick.” Going to check my bios later to see what PCIe it’s running at but it defo supports up to pcie 5.
 
I use the x2 8 pin on the 4090 and that goes over 500w with unlocked power limits. That’s strange.
Didn't the 4090 have issues with the connector burning out or something similar? Perhaps they have decided to lock it down more so they can control the power and reduce issues with it. I didn't realise the adapter had sensor pins in it
Isn't Ventus generally their cheap model? Which means worse components and so it should always be cheaper than FE (but MSI claim they can't lower prices as Nvidia overcharges them). No wonder they put locks on it, for OC they offer more expensive models and this one likely simply can't handle it fully stable.
The Ventus 3X OC is the entry level model with the 'worse' cooler of the range however it's still a decent cooler and more than sufficient for the TDP of the card, but yes if it had an unlocked power limit some people would take it out of the limits of the cooler. The OC plus is supposed to be the next level up and has a slightly better cooler so that's why people are saying it should have had increased power limit because it should be able to handle the +5% without issue. The FE is the MSRP of the 5080 so no card will be cheaper than that at least not for a good while.

None of the manufacturers want to sell cards at MSRP because they don't make enough profit on them, probably the 3X OC and Windforce will be discontinued shortly. For the 3000 series it turned out Nvidia had an agreement with the AIB's where they had to make a certain number of cards at MSRP, after those cards sold those prices just disappeared and the FE was the only card left at MSRP. There is no reason to expect the components to be of a lesser quality other than the heatsink in fact it would probably cost the AIB's more to do that in design and component sourcing for every model. The high end cards do have better designs and components though.
 
Guys if you have an Asus motherboard with "PCIe Slot Q-Release Slim" mechanism, make sure your GPU slides in without much resistance. It seems some of these quick relese PCIe slots on select ASUS motherboard exert too much force and people end up pushing the GPU against divider line on PCIe slot.

 
Guys if you have an Asus motherboard with "PCIe Slot Q-Release Slim" mechanism, make sure your GPU slides in without much resistance. It seems some of these quick relese PCIe slots on select ASUS motherboard exert too much force and people end up pushing the GPU against divider line on PCIe slot.


this is the classic, if its not broken then don't fix it.
 
The average user probably changes their GPU a few times during the life of a motherboard so I doubt Asus will get many returns, but it might make it hard to resell the motherboards for the users, and they will be known as the motherboard manufacturer that kills GPU's.
 
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