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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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There are 2 similar cards, the Ventus 3X OC which is selling for the same price as the FE it has 4 heat pipes, and is the one I got. Then you have the Ventus 3X OC Plus which is the one they are complaining about on reddit, it is more expensive, and has 6 heat pipes. Both of the cards are power limit locked and I agree the plus should at least go to +6% like the FE does. You can get to 3.1- 3.2 GHz without hitting the power limit though so for most people the increased power limit is not really needed on the 5080.
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Make sure you are using the latest version (4.6.6 Beta 5 Build 16555). In settings compatibility properties enable Hardware control and monitoring, Low level IO, Low level hardware, Restore after suspended, Unlock voltage monitoring.
Do not enable Unlock voltage control because it has a bug in the Nvidia driver at the moment with voltage control on the 5000 series, and you don't need it anyway because you control the voltage with curves.
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Saw an interesting article today showing the 5090 won't pull power from the PCIE socket even if it can't get its 600w from the 12 pin cable and also won't exceed the load rating on the cables connected to the adapter.
This basically just means if you use a 3x8 pin adapter or only connected 3 cables to a 4 pin adapter, the 5090 will limit its power and run a bit slower as a result - typically 5-10% depending on the game.
If you only use 2x8 pins to connect to the adapter then it limits the card to 300w and then the 5090 runs slower than the 4090 in certain games.
So if you have a 5090 and want to get the full performance of the card, its best to use the adapter that came with the card and connect 4 x 8 pin cables to it. If you connect less than 4 then you can lose 5-25% performance
www.computerbase.de
This basically just means if you use a 3x8 pin adapter or only connected 3 cables to a 4 pin adapter, the 5090 will limit its power and run a bit slower as a result - typically 5-10% depending on the game.
If you only use 2x8 pins to connect to the adapter then it limits the card to 300w and then the 5090 runs slower than the 4090 in certain games.
So if you have a 5090 and want to get the full performance of the card, its best to use the adapter that came with the card and connect 4 x 8 pin cables to it. If you connect less than 4 then you can lose 5-25% performance
RTX 5000 an zu wenig Kabeln: RTX 5090 geht mit 3×8 Pin PCIe, RTX 5080 aber nicht mit 2×8
Kann die GeForce RTX 5090 an nur dreimal 8 Pin PCI Express betrieben werden? Ja, sie kann und operiert dann mit weniger TDP.
www.computerbase.de
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I picked up the MSI Inspire 3X which has 5 heat pipes I believe. You can increase the Power Limit to 105% on the card.
I've hit 3Ghz easy on this card too, makes a noticeable difference in performance which is nice. The 5080's seem to clock excellently.
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Interesting they say the 5080 doesn't boot with 2 x 8 pins either which would be 300 watts, and if they had allowed the PCIe slot to provide power that would be 375 watts, and been enough.Saw an interesting article today showing the 5090 won't pull power from the PCIE socket even if it can't get its 600w from the 12 pin cable and also won't exceed the load rating on the cables connected to the adapter.
This basically just means if you use a 3x8 pin adapter or only connected 3 cables to a 4 pin adapter, the 5090 will limit its power and run a bit slower as a result - typically 5-10% depending on the game.
If you only use 2x8 pins to connect to the adapter then it limits the card to 300w and then the 5090 runs slower than the 4090 in certain games.
So if you have a 5090 and want to get the full performance of the card, its best to use the adapter that came with the card and connect 4 x 8 pin cables to it. If you connect less than 4 then you can lose 5-25% performance
RTX 5000 an zu wenig Kabeln: RTX 5090 geht mit 3×8 Pin PCIe, RTX 5080 aber nicht mit 2×8
Kann die GeForce RTX 5090 an nur dreimal 8 Pin PCI Express betrieben werden? Ja, sie kann und operiert dann mit weniger TDP.
I wonder if they are going to try and power limit the 5070 ti somehow so that it doesn't get too close to the 5080.
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I use the x2 8 pin on the 4090 and that goes over 500w with unlocked power limits. It’s a cable mod extension cable. That’s strange.
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Complete BS. Used 4090s were already going for £1500 upwards second hand before the 5080 price was even announced.
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For me, at the price I got my 5080 Vs what I could have gotten a 4090 with warranty for, I saved £500, and in the games I play the "quicker"ness of a 4090 is in single digits.
When the reviews first dropped and all the 4090's were gone I was kicking myself, but actually I think I ended up with the better choice.
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Its a long term strategy to get manufacturing done in the US. It will sting at first but will probably end up working.
That's OK. They'll just have to buy American GPUs made in the good 'ol USA!
I guess the intention, as other have stated, is to encourage foreign companies to setup fabs to setup in the US and to give an advantage to US companies like Intel. Time will tell if it works though....
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Looking at the 600w cards, first issue that would happen would be burned cards.
That isnt a suprise due to once one push things to the extreme things can easily break for many reasons.
a new issue just happen
videocardz.com
That isnt a suprise due to once one push things to the extreme things can easily break for many reasons.
a new issue just happen
Some GeForce RTX 5090D/5090 users report issues following first driver update - VideoCardz.com
Multiple GeForce RTX 5090 cards said to have stopped working after driver update For now, reports mainly from Asia. Users are reporting issues with their flagship RTX 5090 and 5090D graphics cards. After updating the driver, some cards become unresponsive and fail to function. Many users...
videocardz.com
If that's the intention i can think of better ways of doing it, like through adding VAT to certain products and giving grants to companies if they manufacture wafers in your country.
Looking at the 600w cards, first issue that would happen would be burned cards.
That isnt a suprise due to once one push things to the extreme things can easily break for many reasons.
a new issue just happen
Some GeForce RTX 5090D/5090 users report issues following first driver update - VideoCardz.com
Multiple GeForce RTX 5090 cards said to have stopped working after driver update For now, reports mainly from Asia. Users are reporting issues with their flagship RTX 5090 and 5090D graphics cards. After updating the driver, some cards become unresponsive and fail to function. Many users...
There is a few different issues happening
* Some combination of rtx5000 card and motherboard are refusing to operate at PCIE 5 and only work on PCIE 4.
* Some combination of rtx5000 cards and motherboard don't recognise eachother and the bios and windows can't detect the GPU even when using PCIE 4 or 3.
* Some users report black screens on latest driver with RTX5000 cards, cause is unknown and seems random
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So the 5090s are not compatible with PCIE5 now, which is the reason for them getting bricked !
https://www.guru3d.com/story/troubleshooting-rtx-5090-black-screen-failures-switch-to-pcie-gen-40/
https://www.guru3d.com/story/troubleshooting-rtx-5090-black-screen-failures-switch-to-pcie-gen-40/
Isn't Ventus generally their cheap model? Which means worse components and so it should always be cheaper than FE (but MSI claim they can't lower prices as Nvidia overcharges them). No wonder they put locks on it, for OC they offer more expensive models and this one likely simply can't handle it fully stable.
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Another evidence this whole launch has been really rushed and not well tested beforehand.
no it won't because the US cannot compete with China's low manufacturing costs due to lower wages and land costs (which is the reason all the tech companies make their goods there in the first place), so inevitably prices will go up.
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Seeing as the stock is already in the US and hasn't been subject to tariffs this is just opportunism from resellers