Nvidia rumour to be launching new GTX 11 series without ray tracing

Harlequin · 24 Jan 2019 at 18:56

HardCOP reporting the GTX 1660Ti will be launched 15/02/2019 at a price of $279.

Flake87 · 24 Jan 2019 at 21:31

So if the RTX2060 launched at $350 and NVidia did launch a 1680Ti or equivalent it should launch at $875

Anyone interested at that kind of price?

LePhuronn · 24 Jan 2019 at 21:52

Sargatanas2511 said:
Surely the middle of 10 and 20 is 15?

Mathematically yes but I'd suggest that 5 is subconsciously associated with being "half" in some instances, and Nvidia wouldn't want people thinking their new cards were half of something. By using a 6 then you're avoiding a direct "half".

It sounds like twaddle I will admit, but you'd be surprised at the amount of psychology, perception and association goes into marketing and advertising.

Sargatanas2511 · 24 Jan 2019 at 22:36

LePhuronn said:
Mathematically yes but I'd suggest that 5 is subconsciously associated with being "half" in some instances, and Nvidia wouldn't want people thinking their new cards were half of something. By using a 6 then you're avoiding a direct "half".

It sounds like twaddle I will admit, but you'd be surprised at the amount of psychology, perception and association goes into marketing and advertising.

I just don't see the problem with GTX 2050/2050Ti personally.

Poneros · 24 Jan 2019 at 22:41

Flake87 said:
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-teased-in-this-allegedly-leaked-photo

More speculation that this will not be the only card in this range, but one of 'many', the big question is how far 'up' the line they will go, and do remember that there is an RTX equivalent of this card already.

I would bet money it will only go down.

greatash · 24 Jan 2019 at 22:45

so 1160ti is basically a 2050 ti at $279/£260, replacing the 1060 at a slightly higher cost with meh performance gains. if it comes with 4gb that will be a joke

LePhuronn · 24 Jan 2019 at 23:26

Sargatanas2511 said:
I just don't see the problem with GTX 2050/2050Ti personally.

Except for the fact the 2000 series have ray tracing and these new cards don't. It avoids confusion.

Sargatanas2511 · 24 Jan 2019 at 23:34

LePhuronn said:
Except for the fact the 2000 series have ray tracing and these new cards don't. It avoids confusion.

Just separate it with GTX and RTX? Nvidia have done this to themselves, it could have been SO much more simple than they have made it. 2000/1100 series would have worked and RTX/GTX 2000 series variants would have worked in my opinion.

LePhuronn · 24 Jan 2019 at 23:38

You'd be surprised how stupid people can be and not even notice the difference between GTX and RTX, especially as RTX is a new thing. Bear in mind we've already seen people commenting that RTX and RX are too similar.

Sargatanas2511 · 24 Jan 2019 at 23:45

Then again it's Nvidia's fault for making all of this way more complicated than it needs to be.

fantasticCG · 25 Jan 2019 at 08:01

Flake87 said:
So if the RTX2060 launched at $350 and NVidia did launch a 1680Ti or equivalent it should launch at $875

Anyone interested at that kind of price?

There won’t be a 1680ti!!!!!

Legionaire68 · 25 Jan 2019 at 08:13

I think the 11 series will be slightly gimped like the 3gb version of GTX 1060, they would be silly to sell the exact same non ray tracing performance for less money.

Flake87 · 25 Jan 2019 at 10:35

fantasticCG said:
There won’t be a 1680ti!!!!!

Everyone was saying there wouldn't be a 1160 / 1660 but now we know there is, and it is in direct competition with an RTX card. If they are prepared to offer this then why not a 1670 or a 1680 etc. Remember that gaming is not the only application for graphics cards and these other applications do not need either ray tracing or DLSS.

fantasticCG · 25 Jan 2019 at 10:40

Flake87 said:
Everyone was saying there wouldn't be a 1160 / 1660 but now we know there is, and it is in direct competition with an RTX card. If they are prepared to offer this then why not a 1670 or a 1680 etc. Remember that gaming is not the only application for graphics cards and these other applications do not need either ray tracing or DLSS.

I understand that, but would NVIDIA shoot themselves in the foot??? And abandoned RTX? I’m not sure they would.

But we live in a world where gpu’s are now north of 1k, ridiculous priced monitors and mobo’s that come in at £950 so you could be right!

JCLDJB · 25 Jan 2019 at 12:35

Sargatanas2511 said:
Just separate it with GTX and RTX? Nvidia have done this to themselves, it could have been SO much more simple than they have made it. 2000/1100 series would have worked and RTX/GTX 2000 series variants would have worked in my opinion.

LePhuronn said:
You'd be surprised how stupid people can be and not even notice the difference between GTX and RTX, especially as RTX is a new thing. Bear in mind we've already seen people commenting that RTX and RX are too similar.

I find the naming of these cards really quite interesting.

It's obvious why they didn't just call these the GTX 2060 & RTX 2060.

It's a psychological thing, as by calling it the 1160, they are indirectly making a statement (that the RTX 2060 is not only better cuz of the 'RTX' branding', but also the '2060' naming - as 206 > 1160) and it allos for the opening up of 'new naming territory, as an RTX 2060 and GTX 2060Ti, wouldn't make any sense, as some may think the 2060Ti is simply a better card than the RTX 2060.

So the reduced the numbers to 1160, so they can introduce the 'Ti' or whatever they want, moving it into it's own little 'subsection'.

It makes total sense from a marketing point of view, they want, at-all-costs, for their RTX line-up to be 'up there' as 'the better option', because they've investe heavily in terms of R&D and developers, to really push the whole raytracing thing.

It is smart, but I ain't buyin' it (both figuratively & literally).

Telecaster · 25 Jan 2019 at 16:37

JCLDJB said:
I find the naming of these cards really quite interesting.

It's obvious why they didn't just call these the GTX 2060 & RTX 2060.

It's a psychological thing, as by calling it the 1160, they are indirectly making a statement (that the RTX 2060 is not only better cuz of the 'RTX' branding', but also the '2060' naming - as 206 > 1160) and it allos for the opening up of 'new naming territory, as an RTX 2060 and GTX 2060Ti, wouldn't make any sense, as some may think the 2060Ti is simply a better card than the RTX 2060.

So the reduced the numbers to 1160, so they can introduce the 'Ti' or whatever they want, moving it into it's own little 'subsection'.

It makes total sense from a marketing point of view, they want, at-all-costs, for their RTX line-up to be 'up there' as 'the better option', because they've investe heavily in terms of R&D and developers, to really push the whole raytracing thing.

It is smart, but I ain't buyin' it (both figuratively & literally).

It's not 1160, it's 1660 isn't it?

Flake87 · 25 Jan 2019 at 17:15

Telecaster said:
It's not 1160, it's 1660 isn't it?

That's the rumour, but the last rumour got the RTX range completly wrong, so it might in reality be either of them, and we won't know for certain until mid month.

JCLDJB · 25 Jan 2019 at 22:59

Telecaster said:
It's not 1160, it's 1660 isn't it?

Yeh whichever..it's all the same for me cuz either way, it is a card I won't be buying.

ANDREW GREEN · 26 Jan 2019 at 11:04

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-gtx-turing-teased-by-leaked-photograph

So there is a GTX1660TI and the GTX1660. The GTX1660 has GDDR5 and the same number of shaders as the GTX1060.

Prices apparently are $250 to $350!!

So it seems we have a GTX1060 6GB replacement at GTX1060 6GB pricing,with virtually the same specs.

I hope this is not true,as GTX1060 6GB cards are now under £200.

Hardware unboxed reckon 1070 performance

Flake87 said:
Everyone was saying there wouldn't be a 1160 / 1660 but now we know there is, and it is in direct competition with an RTX card. If they are prepared to offer this then why not a 1670 or a 1680 etc. Remember that gaming is not the only application for graphics cards and these other applications do not need either ray tracing or DLSS.

It isn't though, it's a slower card.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Jan 2019 at 17:04

ANDREW GREEN said:
Hardware unboxed reckon 1070 performance

I was talking about the GTX1660 which seems to be the replacement for the GTX1060 and has virtually the same specifications. The GTX1060 6GB can be had for under £200 now. The GTX1660TI seems to slot in just above the current position of the GTX1060:

https://videocardz.com/79847/hardocp-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-to-cost-279-usd

So at current exchange rates,the GTX1660 will start at around £210 and the GTX1160TI at £255.

I do hope its GTX1070 level performance as you say,otherwise it wil be another case things haven't really moved forward that much.