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Nvidia to support Freesync?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Wrinkly, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. hyperseven

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    Is it on the list? It may just flicker and have random blackouts as we have seen on the CES videos from the NVidia suite.
     
  2. chrcoluk

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    Yeah but he should have actually tried it instead of just accepting nvidias answer to be fair, thats poor journalism when you just take people for their word.
     
  3. chrcoluk

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    Its TN :(

    I would be happy with.

    IPS/VA
    1-120hz gsync (must support a min fps of 30 or lower)
    Must have at least 3 of these 4 outputs (which I believe not a single gsync has), DP, HDMI, DVI and VGA. I am ok losing DVI if DP works unbuggy, HDMI and VGA are required so I can use my consoles on the same display. I dont have room for one display for each device.
    8 bit or higher colours without using FRC to get there. Native 8bit with a 10bit+frc mode is ok.
    Proper heavy not cheap base, adjustable etc.
    Large bazel, so I have a clear defined edge to the screen, buttons must not be at back, so easily accessible.
    27 inch
    1440p
    ULMB
    Adjustable overdrive.
    dell 2209wa level of viewing angle (this screen was apparently an actual H-IPS not eIPS so hard to achieve?)

    Dont want
    TN
    Display without both VGA and HDMI
    refresh rate above 120hz, especially weirdness like 144, 120 is good as is some games use 24fps scenes, and 24 fits into 120 cleanly as does 30,60. 24fps scenes stutter on a 60fps screen.
    Thin bazel
    Active cooling

    Also needs to be affordable sub £350 at absolute most, ideally below £300. The most I have ever paid for a monitor is about £250 so £350 already would be a huge spend for me.

    Too much to ask?
     
  4. henson0115

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    true
     
  5. LambChop

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    Would have just been easier to say I am correct, like I knew from the start. Yet still I was argued against, and even a few simpletons tried to say adaptive-sync is not in the eDP spec and/or nVidia is not using adaptive sync.

    I'm still sitting here wondering if this is an enthusiasts forum or just a place for a select few clever people with a lot of ** Choose your words carefully in future *** thrown in.
     
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  6. IT Troll

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    So we are agreed. Nvidia are using Adaptive Sync, commonly known as FreeSync. So for all intents and purposes Nvidia support FreeSync.
     
  7. hyperseven

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    No commonly known a VESA adaptive sync is it not? Freesync is just AMDs name for it :confused:
     
  8. henson0115

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    lol you both said the same thing :)
     
  9. Shaz12

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    Some FreeSync 2 monitors don't even meet G-Sync 1 standards. I am finding monitors with ranges like 48-144 and 72-144 and since AMD's website isn't updated another handful of 30-144hz monitors. Monitors with ranges greater than 40-144 shouldn't even exist.
    Assassins creed Odyssey runs at 62 fps on ultra on RTX 2080. That's just 14fps away from the baseline.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. henson0115

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    the samsung one with 72-144 was updated with a firmware update to make it 48-144.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7c0hzo/samsung_chg70_freesync_2_update_range_now_48144/
     
  11. IT Troll

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    Not really. Monitors list FreeSync in their features and that is how they are marketed, not VESA Adaptive Sync. So for the general public the technology/feature is commonly known as just FreeSync. This is why sites like AnandTech stick it in brackets when they are talking about Adaptive Sync.
     
  12. JediFragger

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    Problem is most buyers won't even know that firmware update exists, never mind having the ability to do it! So nVidia have (rightly imo) assessed it on the original.
     
  13. Gregster

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    The bottom line is..... I will be saying "Freesync" over "Variable refresh rate", as it is the easier to say out loud :D
     
  14. JediFragger

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    Greg verbalises all his thoughts :D :p
     
  15. Gregster

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    Location: Essex innit!

    :D
     
  16. D.P.

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    I do wonder if they will start listing Gsync if they get certified by Nvidia?
     
  17. D.P.

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  18. nashathedog

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    It is, A lot of online retailers walk a fine line when marketing products, Often teliing outright lies, Even here on OCUK I've bought models like the Asus ROG Dominator monitor that wasn't a ROG model & an Acer Freesync model that was marketed as being a Predator models which it's not, I've seen sellers and even reviewers calling 3440x1440 monitors 4k monitors but that isn't what they are. Marketing has very blurred lines. I've had 3 different Freesync monitors delivered here, none of them had Freesync on the box they had adaptive-sync on it. Freesync is AMD's way of using Adaptive sync but it's not Freesync just like even if Nvidia call them G-sync compatible it's not G-sync just adaptive sync, what they call their way of using it is up to them. They can call it poor mans G-sync if they want. We tend to call adaptive sync monitors Freesync monitors as until now that's been the only tech taking advantage of it.

    +1

    They can't be seen to say all these monitor just work, not after their claims of G-sync superiority over the last few years, Doing so would upset a lot of the current G-sync userbase. I'm sure that plenty of software support will be needed to catch up with all the different models, Although plenty of adaptivesync models will never offer a decent experience due to how bad the adaptive sync support is on it I'm hoping they don't just lump monitors into this category on mass in order to reduce the overall workload, As an example my 3440x1440 ultrawide monitor has a 75hz panel with a working range of 30-75, It also has LFC support yet it's not on the list of compatibles and they say they've tested 400 so far Really? It should be as the complaints of blur and blinking issues have never been a problem with it with Freesync. I don't for one minute believe they've tested 400 adaptive sync monitors & if they have I don't believe only 12 pass unless they purposely add conditions to make sure they won't pass.
     
  19. henson0115

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    ocuk sent an interesting email which read browse our range of gsync certified freesync monitors. :D:p quite the mouthful

    indeed. but we dont live in a perfect world yet.
     
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  20. DragonQ

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    Why is 48-144 Hz terrible?