NVIDIA Volta with GDDR6 in early 2018?

[nashathedog]

I'm betting around February for Volta.

Impossible.

GDDR6 production only begins at some unspecified time in Q1 '18, and Chinese New Year is in early Feb.

For any real volume you're probably looking at June at the earliest.

Though there is no suggestion that it will be, if GDDR6 production gets delayed, you might be looking at around this time next year for launch, or even later.

Yeah I'd say June by the time DDR6 is ramped up - there hardly in a rush to bring them out given what Vega looks like it will perform.

Won't Volta be a mix of gddr5 and gddr6?
I would have thought so, This gen was a mix of gddr5 & 5x so it may only be the highest 11 series cards with gddr6, The replacement for the 1080ti and Titan's using gddr6 while the replacement for the smaller chips as used in the 1080 and down could be gddr5 & 5x. The next gen may even have a few Pascal refresh cards at the bottom end of the range. The two 1060's become the two 1150's, the 1070 becomes the 1160 and the 1080 the 1170, then we may see the 1180 being like Kepler's 780 followed by a cut down Titan V with the fully unlocked examples in reserve incase AMD manage a Hawaii style comeback.

 

[Jono8]

Impossible.

GDDR6 production only begins at some unspecified time in Q1 '18, and Chinese New Year is in early Feb.

For any real volume you're probably looking at June at the earliest.

Though there is no suggestion that it will be, if GDDR6 production gets delayed, you might be looking at around this time next year for launch, or even later.

People said exactly the same about the 1080 and gddr5x and were very wrong so i wouldnt be very confident in what you just said

 

[JessieD]

People said exactly the same about the 1080 and gddr5x and were very wrong so i wouldnt be very confident in what you just said

I have no idea who is right on this but I'm praying it is you

 

[Jono8]

I have no idea who is right on this but I'm praying it is you

I haven't got a clue, but predicating a release date based on Micron's published schedules is asking for trouble.

From the Pascal thread in 2016 before it came out -

if its got GDDR5X then you wont get 1 before September - micron sampled 2 weeks ago with mass production not due to start till july


remember Samsung sampled HBM2 in jan this year and mass production has started - hence why we saw GP100 already.

really putting money on a die shrunk Maxwell .

For instance GDDR5x, Micron talk about it, suddenly it's on every single card that isn't HBM in graphics cards moving forward. Not sure that Nvidia or AMD have said much if anything about it but before either said anything everyone was convinced it had totally replaced gddr5 despite not being in production yet. Simple fact, Nvidia are still showing Maxwell when talking about Pascal products, they've shown no cores let alone working demos or full cards. They are way behind and it sounds quite probably they haven't got the first working silicon back yet. April is no chance at all, I think August will be pushing it.

Quite a few kept banging the drum that there was no way Pascal would release until August and September , often citing gddr5x production as the reason and then boom - it came out in May.

 

[JessieD]

I haven't got a clue, but predicating a release date based on Micron's published schedules is asking for trouble.

From the Pascal thread in 2016 before it came out -





Quite a few kept banging the drum that there was no way Pascal would release until August and September , often citing gddr5x production as the reason and then boom - it came out in May.

Sounds logical, I'm keeping everything crossed that Volta comes sooner rather than later. Until then it is me & my geriatric GTX 285

 

[silversurfer]

I think theres the headline release date and if two companies are collaborating then its possible they have pre release availability to stock. Obviously that happens in some amount so chips can be used in designs. AMD had a partner for HBM2 so maybe Nvidia gets stock in time for Volta release March but I agree its a H1 rough date. People are being silly and saying December, far more likely to be later then early for anything consumer based

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Well I'm getting a refund on my defective 1080Ti, time to wait for Volta I guess.

 

[Rroff]

I haven't got a clue, but predicating a release date based on Micron's published schedules is asking for trouble.

From the Pascal thread in 2016 before it came out -





Quite a few kept banging the drum that there was no way Pascal would release until August and September , often citing gddr5x production as the reason and then boom - it came out in May.

We really should start a leaderboard for people's claims and how wrong/right they've been just out of interest.

 

[TNA]

We really should start a leaderboard for people's claims and how wrong/right they've been.

I thought Big Vega would at least rival Titan XP/1080Ti and was wrong about that

But in my defence, all those advantages over a Fury X, Vega should have been able to do it.

• From 28nm to 14nm
  
• New architecture
• HBM2
  
• Two years

When you think what Nvidia accomplished going from Kepler to Maxwell which were both on 28nm, you would expect using the above you would see bigger gains

Most people said Vega would be 1070 performance here, which I found laughable, but it seems in the end it landed somewhere in between my prediction/expectation and what others were saying.

 

[Rroff]

Well we still don't know for definite what big Vega is going to be heh.

 

[TNA]

Well we still don't know for definite what big Vega is going to be heh.

You thinking Vega 56 and 64 are small Vega then?

 

[Rroff]

You thinking Vega 56 and 64 are small Vega then?

I'm not ruling out the RX cards being potentially a good bit faster than the FE on driver improvements, etc. though personally I think most of that will equate to power saving more than performance uplift.

 

[TNA]

I'm not ruling out the RX cards being potentially a good bit faster than the FE on driver improvements, etc. though personally I think most of that will equate to power saving more than performance uplift.

I think the RX Vega 64 Liquid Edition could catch up to 1080Ti performance eventually. But by then we will be on cards that are 30% or more faster anyway

 

[melmac]

We really should start a leaderboard for people's claims and how wrong/right they've been just out of interest.

No, it's bad enough the bullying that goes on here when somebody gets something wrong. Everybody is only guessing that far before launches, even the guys that get it right.

 

[D.P.]

I haven't got a clue, but predicating a release date based on Micron's published schedules is asking for trouble.

From the Pascal thread in 2016 before it came out -





Quite a few kept banging the drum that there was no way Pascal would release until August and September , often citing gddr5x production as the reason and then boom - it came out in May.

The same people that get their fake news from SemiAcurate , the one website that makes Fox news look accurate and honest!

 

[TheF34RChannel]

I wish we knew more (specifications) including when GeForce Volta comes out - it will be my most exciting upgrade for a long while - but alas. Jono is right though, estimating release windows based on GDDR production cycles is asking for trouble

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Looks like the gaming Volta cards will be released in 2018(saw this on Overclock.net BTW):

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4097782-nvidia-nvda-q2-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript

Volta for gaming, we haven’t announced anything. And all I can say is that our pipeline is filled with some exciting new toys for the gamers, and we have some really exciting new technology to offer them in the pipeline. But for the holiday season for the foreseeable future, I think Pascal is just unbeatable. It’s just the best thing out there. And everybody who’s looking forward to playing Call of Duty or Destiny 2, if they don’t already have one, should run out and get themselves a Pascal.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Yup will be holding onto my 1080Ti until the next high end Ti comes out, anything between would be too small of an upgrade. Unless it's Titan, and i really don't want to pay such a high price for a GPU.. Ti's are expensive enough.

Too bad they don't release the top card (not Titan) at the start of a generation anymore.

 

[Gregster]

The same people that get their fake news from SemiAcurate , the one website that makes Fox news look accurate and honest!

SA have a real dislike of NVidia and never paint them in a good light. Charlie goes out of his way to slur NVidia and big-up AMD and I find the site far to disingenuous to take seriously. And they charge $1000 a year to get 'scoops' which is seriously laughable.

 

[TNA]

SA have a real dislike of NVidia and never paint them in a good light. Charlie goes out of his way to slur NVidia and big-up AMD and I find the site far to disingenuous to take seriously. And they charge $1000 a year to get 'scoops' which is seriously laughable.

Yeah. I never visit that site either. Not interested in bias one way or the other. Usually it is easy to spot and ignore anyway. I do it a lot browsing this forum