Probably never, as the food industry makes $$$$'s from mass produced, cheap food.
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Probably never, as the food industry makes $$$$'s from mass produced, cheap food.
Probably can't afford it because you live in Sidcup lol, house prices are crazy there.
I'm in Tunbridge Wells these days so not much difference honestly. Just nicer houses.
Oh its complete and utter BS. I made a Penang curry last night that would feed 10+ people and it cost about £6 I reckon.
The other BS argument is "oh I don't know how to cook". Right, but you know how to work the sky remote and you know how facebook works. There is literally 0 excuse not to know how to do almost anything these days. I genuinely don't know how people used to get by when they couldn't google or youtube things. If I want to change the oil filter on my car there is a video for it. If I want to know how to plant vegetables there is a video for it. If I want to know how to make michelin star quality food, there are videos for it.
Its always laziness.
Its high. There will be a strong correlation between peoples laziness when it comes to cooking and their laziness when it comes to things like exercise as well.
Some would argue that if you are doing sports that dangerous you should have private insurance. I do lots of sport though so I'm not those people
Anyway, give it a few years and I can assure you that your brother will start catching up and your good health will start to show.
Thats the problem, a lot of health issues from lifestyle factors don't apply until older age. You might have gone to A&E to be patched up a number of times but that is cheap compared to looking after someone with serious health issues from the age of 50-80. Do you know how much it costs to have around the clock care or need someone to come in twice a day for care.
In almost every case, an active person costs the NHS waaaaay less than an inactive one.
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I vaguely remember seeing poverty (can't remember definition) against number of takeaways and that showed a strong correlation. I'd assume poverty correlates with obesity to some degree.
The village I live in has about 7 or 8 takeaways I know of- population here is under 5,000. That is bonkers.
I'm not sure it is exactly laziness- more just ignorance, and I'm not using that word to be unkind. Some people just don't have the tools, due to their history.
I do have to say, when I see obese five year olds, I do judge the patents, and I don't like doing that.
This is part of the problem. There is almost never a single cause for anything. Are poor people generally lazier than the norm? Probably. Are poor people less educated than the norm? Probably. Are poor people less likely to place value on eating properly? Probably.
For all of these generalisations there will be plenty who don't fit the bill. The issue is that it becomes harder to sympathise with someone who puts 0 effort in to change. It takes so little effort to make a pasta sauce from scratch or even buy a jar, stick some pasta in water and if you want some protein, buy a pack of sausages. Suddenly you have fed your family of four for £3.50 instead of £15 on a takeaway.
How is it not laziness? You have to be living under a rock not to know if A) you are overweight B) Not eating well and not cooking.
Like I said, there are so many easy to access resources. How many people do you genuinely believe don't have access to the internet who are under 60?
Why? Its like any other kind of neglect. I 100% judge parents with fat children. There is no excuse in this day and age other than unwillingness to put in even a tiny bit of effort. We are not asking them to do a 6 month course, dedicate hours of their lives to study or split the atom. We are asking them to type into google "cheap, easy meals". Then they just need to buy the ingredients at the same time as they do their normal shop. Everyone goes shopping. I can make dinner from stuff I bought at the pokiest of little corner shops these days.
I think we give people far too many excuses for their laziness. If you want to be lazy then go for it but don't whinge and complain that its not your fault when it causes you problems.
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Laziness is a big thing too......and not just generally, but cooking.
Talking about the number and frequency of take aways......you could EASILY cook most food that's just a 'tasty' and satisfying for a LOT less. But it's the convenience.
Talking about the number and frequency of take aways......you could EASILY cook most food that's just a 'tasty' and satisfying for a LOT less. But it's the convenience.
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I've been trying to but can't curb my (near) obesity.
I find shopping too difficult and need to buy foods that can be stored for a long time (like 2-3 months in between food orders).
There aren't many healthy options for keeping healthy food long term, and I have a whole freezer drawer full of frozen peppers, onions, peas and sweetcorn.
I also tend to dip into takeaways too much to not run out of what food I have left.
Also since I was like 3 years old my parents let me set my own limits and eat 3 full size chocolate bars a day ... 'Ive only had two chocolates today, where is my third?', and they happily gave me the second and third, and likely would have continued letting me eat more say if I set my own limit to 10.
Throughout my school years my daily breakfast was Cadbury mini rolls and a glass of milk, followed by more chocolate at school, and more cake / chocolate / biscuits after school that my parent's endlessly supplied. Then of course I grow up addicted to all this, then in my late teens / early adulthood was literally begging my parents to stop buying cakes / chocolates / crisps / biscuits. There response was simply 'If you dont want it don't eat it' while keeping 10+ tubs of Cadburys roses and more stocked in the garage.
And now even if I still try to eat a salad, I still need my regular junk on top. I've tried stopping and want to stop but absolutely can't because I'm that addicted.
I can actually feel irritation / discomfort in my heart (and actually in my head too) daily and need to manually grab and compress it like in that Simpsons 'bacon up that sausage' clip but still can't stop, and am already diagnosed a few years back with moderate heart blockage and its probably a lot worse than that now.
I'll likely be dead within the next decade.
I find shopping too difficult and need to buy foods that can be stored for a long time (like 2-3 months in between food orders).
There aren't many healthy options for keeping healthy food long term, and I have a whole freezer drawer full of frozen peppers, onions, peas and sweetcorn.
I also tend to dip into takeaways too much to not run out of what food I have left.
Also since I was like 3 years old my parents let me set my own limits and eat 3 full size chocolate bars a day ... 'Ive only had two chocolates today, where is my third?', and they happily gave me the second and third, and likely would have continued letting me eat more say if I set my own limit to 10.
Throughout my school years my daily breakfast was Cadbury mini rolls and a glass of milk, followed by more chocolate at school, and more cake / chocolate / biscuits after school that my parent's endlessly supplied. Then of course I grow up addicted to all this, then in my late teens / early adulthood was literally begging my parents to stop buying cakes / chocolates / crisps / biscuits. There response was simply 'If you dont want it don't eat it' while keeping 10+ tubs of Cadburys roses and more stocked in the garage.
And now even if I still try to eat a salad, I still need my regular junk on top. I've tried stopping and want to stop but absolutely can't because I'm that addicted.
I can actually feel irritation / discomfort in my heart (and actually in my head too) daily and need to manually grab and compress it like in that Simpsons 'bacon up that sausage' clip but still can't stop, and am already diagnosed a few years back with moderate heart blockage and its probably a lot worse than that now.
I'll likely be dead within the next decade.
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Takeaways are healthier than the food I cook.
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this topic can be taken to extremes, fat shaming does no one any good, even though people are generally pointing our truths, but it is also unfair to treat people like ****.
Then conversely, accepting obesity / fatness as "okay" has in itself problems. Covid has shown that obesity has a direct impact on survivability.
you don't become obese overnight, so I suppose early interventions are needed, and with more awareness of mental health I would hope that these things can get noticed. In an ideal world junk food wouldn't exist, but not everyone is interested in good food / cooking / nutrition. Then again even healthy people like junk food from time to time.
I guess it comes down to education - and building that in at a young age. Our kids don't spend much time in front of the tv - we don't allow it, we have a huge garden and lots of fields around us, and they generally want to spend time outdoors - similar to my upbringing (in the Med)... I guess people living in small flats don't have that same advantage - so I guess it might go back to the socio-economic divide that seems to blight everything these days.
Also I think it's the culture of the "weekly" shop that doesn't help - I much prefer the daily or regular mini shop, as it means you can buy fresh ingredients and you have less chance of wasting food but also less need to buy long life storage items which generally are pumped full of crap.
Then conversely, accepting obesity / fatness as "okay" has in itself problems. Covid has shown that obesity has a direct impact on survivability.
you don't become obese overnight, so I suppose early interventions are needed, and with more awareness of mental health I would hope that these things can get noticed. In an ideal world junk food wouldn't exist, but not everyone is interested in good food / cooking / nutrition. Then again even healthy people like junk food from time to time.
I guess it comes down to education - and building that in at a young age. Our kids don't spend much time in front of the tv - we don't allow it, we have a huge garden and lots of fields around us, and they generally want to spend time outdoors - similar to my upbringing (in the Med)... I guess people living in small flats don't have that same advantage - so I guess it might go back to the socio-economic divide that seems to blight everything these days.
Also I think it's the culture of the "weekly" shop that doesn't help - I much prefer the daily or regular mini shop, as it means you can buy fresh ingredients and you have less chance of wasting food but also less need to buy long life storage items which generally are pumped full of crap.
Why?
Walk to closest shop and buy food or Amazon do delivery (within hours) delivery people can even bring it into your house!
I wouldnt be surprised if you can pay extra to have them unload it into your fridge and cupboards
Most people eat junk food and get takeaways out of laziness. Similar to [not] going to the gym, swim, walk or any other form of exercise. People want an easy way out, often the easy way out also leads to an early death
Why do you need it to be stored that long? Do you live in the arse end of nowhere that gets snowed in for months of the year. Genuine question.
I haven't done proper shopping in about 8 years. We get a tesco delivery once a week usually and pay for it using clubcard points. Saves so much time, effort and the lure of the supermarket temptations.
What are you cooking??
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When I was a child and most kids are actually encouraged to stay inside and watch T.V / video games. I did regular physical education at school plus an optional extra hour after as well as trying stuff like body combat, but then after finishing education the only reason I stopped is that you have to pay and its too expensive for me.
Last year I was advised to start and referred to 'NHS Gym' by my physiotherapist that would only cost £3 a week and I accepted that, but surprise surprise they rejected the referral and didn't even say if it was for covid or because they were just full.
I actually just ordered a dumbell / barbell set to level up my at home physiotherapy stuff too, I'd been needing to do that for a while now. Not sure I can even reverse my issues on my own but I do what I can manage.
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Why?
Walk to closest shop and buy food or Amazon do delivery (within hours) delivery people can even bring it into your house!
I wouldnt be surprised if you can pay extra to have them unload it into your fridge and cupboards
Most people eat junk food and get takeaways out of laziness. Similar to [not] going to the gym, swim, walk or any other form of exercise. People want an easy way out, often the easy way out also leads to an early death
Cant walk / stand for much more than 15 mins and need a stick to be mobile.
Cannot carry any items at all. My current bodyweight is mostly also a byproduct of joint disease.
Online grocery ordering has a £40 minimum spend and takeaway is just as easy and faster.
Also, there are many alternatives to 'traditional' takeaways that are unhealthy now we have the likes of Deliveroo, Uber eats and Just Eat. We regularly (once a week usually) have been ordering from a Thai restaurant. Things like Fish with spices and rice, chicken currys, noodles etc.
Gone are the days of fish and chips, pizza and chinese (english chinese) only
Gone are the days of fish and chips, pizza and chinese (english chinese) only
You can use a computer though right? If so, Amazon home delivery for food. Get them to bring it inside
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I'm old - we didn't have computer games / consoles!
I guess it's down to your upbringing on how "outdoorsy" you were - again it's a social divide not everyone has the option of freedom to roam outside.
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If you think restaurant curries are healthy I don't know what to tell you.
Your realize they still add sugar / butter, and not to mention the carbs from the bread?
People think subways is healthy when it has vastly more carbs than mc donalds due to the bread - UK mc donalds is actually already 'healthier' than most ready food you even buy at the supermarket - search YouTube for 'US vs UK McDonalds' and 'Mcdonalds weight loss'.
More than 5 years ago I actually tried mc donalds everyday and lost weight. But there isn't one where I now live.
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@fez sausages and pasta with sauce isn’t particularly healthy though?
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I'm old - we didn't have computer games / consoles!
I guess it's down to your upbringing on how "outdoorsy" you were - again it's a social divide not everyone has the option of freedom to roam outside.
I was locked in my house and never allowed to socialize outside of school hours because 'white man bad'. Once a week I got to go to the mosque, at least it wasn't for 2 hours a day like a lot of other parents make their kids do.
No reason why it shouldn't be with some small changes... brown pasta, good quality sausages. A fairly well balanced meal tbf.
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Add some carrots.
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