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ChrisD. said:
Or maybe I should get off my high horse and just accept the fact that this sort of **** happens when you have children. FWIW he was absolutely fine from 1800 onwards and the following day, normal temperate, and normal toddler behaviour.
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I don't think its you being on your high horse - but I do think this stuff does just happen when you have kids and they're at nursery. We've had to pick our daughter up from nursery twice in 6 weeks (she only just started going 7 weeks ago) for a mix of fevers etc. but typically after some calpol and some TLC/naps she's back to normal the following day.

It's annoying to think we've essentially ****** money away for that day - but at the same time the nursery have been great for so many other things, she does stuff we'd never even consider at home and she's come on leaps and bounds since going so we're sort of just accepting it's part of the whole circus.
 
t2na said:
I don't think its you being on your high horse - but I do think this stuff does just happen when you have kids and they're at nursery. We've had to pick our daughter up from nursery twice in 6 weeks (she only just started going 7 weeks ago) for a mix of fevers etc. but typically after some calpol and some TLC/naps she's back to normal the following day.

It's annoying to think we've essentially ****** money away for that day - but at the same time the nursery have been great for so many other things, she does stuff we'd never even consider at home and she's come on leaps and bounds since going so we're sort of just accepting it's part of the whole circus.
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Early days are especially bad in all fairness as they are hoovering up all sorts of crap. I couldn't agree more with your leaps and bounds point though - my girl is doing stuff I didn't manage till 7 years old lol. And I think up until about 14 I was still saying "ELLA MENNAAA PEE" because I didn't quite know the alphabet :cry:
 
ChrisD. said:
They are happy to keep them in with runny noses etc!
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I think it is a count your blessings situation -- I have friends whose kids have been sent home for sniffles. The unofficial calpol provision is useful too...

I imagine yours will do 15 hours free childcare but require a "top-up" that gets it back to the commercial rate? :D
 
dLockers said:
I think it is a count your blessings situation -- I have friends whose kids have been sent home for sniffles. The unofficial calpol provision is useful too...

I imagine yours will do 15 hours free childcare but require a "top-up" that gets it back to the commercial rate? :D
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He's only 15 months so 20% top up.

That reminds me, tax return...
 
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Well our youngest goes to school in september where he'll join our eldest, he cannot wait, he's so excited. Also it means less childcare costs \o/. I also means I won't have to sign up to the 30hrs anymore, and can stop doing salary sacrifices! However, also logistically it just makes life a hell of a lot easier, especially with the wrap around care (breakfast clubs and after school clubs). Our eldest does a lot of activities, such as piano, sports and so on.

As for building up confidence, my eldest does Taekwondo (over 3 years now) and has helped build resilience, and seeing the progression gives confidence and drive for improving as well. My youngest will join me doing BJJ although I think my eldest would like it as well. Martial Arts are a fantastic way to build up resilience and self confidence. Sports as well, team sports are a brilliant way of creating a self worth and confidence. The side effect is that if they do end up in an altercation they have a better chance of defending themselves if they have no choice. Then I can come along and kick the teeth in of those that transgressed :D (not serious btw...)

Of course there's more to it than just martial arts (although personally I think it really does instil a sense of belonging and resilience) - as I said hobbies, sports and things that give sense of worth really does have an impact.
 
Freefaller said:
Well our youngest goes to school in september where he'll join our eldest, he cannot wait, he's so excited. Also it means less childcare costs \o/. I also means I won't have to sign up to the 30hrs anymore, and can stop doing salary sacrifices! However, also logistically it just makes life a hell of a lot easier, especially with the wrap around care (breakfast clubs and after school clubs). Our eldest does a lot of activities, such as piano, sports and so on.
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I've just started factoring my finances for the 15 hours free I will get in September (so Augusts invoice period) and it is the first taster of this goodness :D.

Wrap around care is absolutely dirt cheap in comparison at our intended school, too.
 
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Just ordered some bank cards for the kids. I'm using something called hyperjar as it was recommended by another dad who has one for his daughter. I'm interested to see how my 2 manage (6 and 9). I only got the 6 year old one because I like to make them equal.
 
dLockers said:
I've just started factoring my finances for the 15 hours free I will get in September (so Augusts invoice period) and it is the first taster of this goodness :D.

Wrap around care is absolutely dirt cheap in comparison at our intended school, too.
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Don't you qualify for the 30hrs? Regardless, 15hrs of support is absolutely amazingly helpful.

Wrap around care at schools is great value for money, we have an advantage that my wife works at the school so too. It's not just about the care for me it's the trying new skills, clubs, and activities which really helps develop our kids! :)
 
theone8181 said:
Just ordered some bank cards for the kids. I'm using something called hyperjar as it was recommended by another dad who has one for his daughter. I'm interested to see how my 2 manage (6 and 9). I only got the 6 year old one because I like to make them equal.
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That's interesting, keen to hear how you get on!
 
theone8181 said:
Just ordered some bank cards for the kids. I'm using something called hyperjar as it was recommended by another dad who has one for his daughter. I'm interested to see how my 2 manage (6 and 9). I only got the 6 year old one because I like to make them equal.
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lol, this is how you make your elder child ANGRY :D

Freefaller said:
Don't you qualify for the 30hrs? Regardless, 15hrs of support is absolutely amazingly helpful.
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Na, she was only just 3 -- and I had to "take the money" when last years bonus came around to fund OPEX. It was a tough pill to swallow but the right decision at the time.
 
Our lass had a meltdown as I've been trying to get the little one to fall asleep in her cot by herself, it's working but it takes ages before I can leave her.

Never any tears, just needs reassuring I'm still there as she settles down at the moment.

Our lass seems to think kids will fall asleep on you, then one day, wham bang they want to go to sleep themselves in the cot.

She can't that it takes an hour for bedtimes.

Is it me who's wrong ? She's doing my head i !
 
alchal said:
Our lass had a meltdown as I've been trying to get the little one to fall asleep in her cot by herself, it's working but it takes ages before I can leave her.

Never any tears, just needs reassuring I'm still there as she settles down at the moment.

Our lass seems to think kids will fall asleep on you, then one day, wham bang they want to go to sleep themselves in the cot.

She can't that it takes an hour for bedtimes.

Is it me who's wrong ? She's doing my head i !
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I got a lot of guff for it, but I had night and day difference/impact by hiring a sleep coach. From what you've written there, neither of you are 'correct' and it was helpful to just get someone who has proven results to guide you. I think it was 300 quid. Per bed time cost is in the pennies now if you want to amortise the cost :D
 
t2na said:
I don't think its you being on your high horse - but I do think this stuff does just happen when you have kids and they're at nursery. We've had to pick our daughter up from nursery twice in 6 weeks (she only just started going 7 weeks ago) for a mix of fevers etc. but typically after some calpol and some TLC/naps she's back to normal the following day.

It's annoying to think we've essentially ****** money away for that day - but at the same time the nursery have been great for so many other things, she does stuff we'd never even consider at home and she's come on leaps and bounds since going so we're sort of just accepting it's part of the whole circus.
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I've just emailed the manager. I get kids get ill, and I have absolutely no issue if it's a valid reason for them to get sent home. In this instance, I genuinely feel like they didn't bother their backsides during the day, and I refuse to just accept things because I'm a parent now and 'these things happen'. There's some proper whiney whinge bag parents in the mornings at drop off or pick up later on picking up on the smallest of things and being properly difficult with the staff (when I'm trying to keep hold of a hungry 15 month old behind them in the queue), so an email calling this out shouldn't warrant them excluding him!
 
dLockers said:
I got a lot of guff for it, but I had night and day difference/impact by hiring a sleep coach. From what you've written there, neither of you are 'correct' and it was helpful to just get someone who has proven results to guide you. I think it was 300 quid. Per bed time cost is in the pennies now if you want to amortise the cost :D
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Might recommend that to her...
 
alchal said:
Our lass had a meltdown as I've been trying to get the little one to fall asleep in her cot by herself, it's working but it takes ages before I can leave her.

Never any tears, just needs reassuring I'm still there as she settles down at the moment.

Our lass seems to think kids will fall asleep on you, then one day, wham bang they want to go to sleep themselves in the cot.

She can't that it takes an hour for bedtimes.

Is it me who's wrong ? She's doing my head i !
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How old is your little one? We ended up doing what @dLockers did and got a sleep coach / sleep teaching guides.

Our daughter was a great little sleeper from when she was a few weeks old until about 4/5 months - then we had a few weeks where it was just a nightmare going to sleep and staying asleep. She'd take an hour + to get to sleep then wake up every few hours or just not go back to sleep at 4/5am.

We figured we had nothing to lose so just paid for some sleep training guides and support. It's really handy having a guide / support available on WhatsApp so you can just ask loads of questions and get guidance, even if it doesn't seem like rocket science it was so worth it to us.

Now she's 10 months old we can just put her in her cot for naps/bedtime and she'll chat to herself for a few minutes and then drop off to sleep!
 
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