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Yeah but strange thing is AMD is charging almost the same for their 6 and 8 core CPUs as Intel charges for 13600K and 13700K while the Intel counterparts have equal number of P cores that have much better latency and somewhat better IPC and better all core clocks with only mild higher power consumption. Nevermind they also come with additional e-cores for those that want to use them. Even for those that do not, the 13700K and 13600K are better 8 and 6 core CPUs with e-cores disabled than the 7700X and 7600X and they only cost like $20 to $30 more or are the exact same price if you have a local Micro Center. Neverminded that platform costs is also the same at most and usually less expensive. AMD is allowing their server superiority to dictate their consumer desktop prices despite actually losing and given they are so much smaller than Intel, how can they get away with that.
Well if you want more than 8 strong cores and no hybrid, AMD does have that with Ryzen 7900X and Ryzen 7950X. Though Intel's 13700K and 13900K with the extra e-cores trade blows with them in multi threaded workloads as their P cores are better and they have enough e-core quantity even though e-cores are far weaker to make up for their P core quantity deficit. Though for those who do not like the hybrid arch (I am one for sure) either, just a preference, they have consumers by the balls there.
Though how does AMD get away with such predatory practice behavior when they have not even been on top for more than a year in all spaces. I mean both Intel and AMD have been trading blows with their own pros and cons for some time. It was only from November 2020 until November 2021 where AMD had a complete domination of Intel in performance with Zen 3 on core count and superior IPC and similar clocks. Once Intel came out with the golden Cove cores in Alder Lake, Intel was back on top in single threaded workloads by a lot.
Then AMD thinks they could be greedy with Zen 4 is beyond me??
It was different when AMD was greedy back in the Athlon 64 days because they were on top for a lot longer. Since Athlon 64 release in September 2003, AMD had a massive IPC advantage over Intel Pentium 4 (Even the decent Northwood) by like 70-80% despite lower clock, the single core CPU Athlon 64s just embarrassed the Pentium 4s in almost everything despite being clocked 1000MHz slower and much worse overclocking ability. AMD had that advantage in performance all the way until July 2006 when Intel dropped Conroe and completely knocked out AMD and lead to Intel's 13 years of complete and utter domination until AMD became performance completive again with Zen 2. And no Zen 1 does not count as perf completive. Performance competitive per dollar yes. Overall performance heck no not until Zen 2 vs Coffee Lake.
It just is mind boggling AMD has gotten so greedy when they really only dominated Intel in all facets for like 1 year (November 2020 to November 2021). Back when they had had the lead for almost 3 years and Intel was stuck on the ancient Netburst arch, I could see them being more greedy, but now since November 2021?? Do not understand it at all. Sure November 2021 and Alder Lake was not the knockout Conroe was especially when you take strong core count and power usage into consideration, but still!!
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keep digging for anything negative you can find..
