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Because you can use 8000 ddr5 ram on the Intel, and you can't on AMD?
Can you run it in Gear 2?? If so great. If not and needs higher gear that is not good and will not help perf very much.
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Because you can use 8000 ddr5 ram on the Intel, and you can't on AMD?
Can you run it in Gear 2?? If so great. If not and needs higher gear that is not good and will not help perf very much.
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Are you getting Raptor Lake? If so can you run the same benchmark in the Fallout 4 thread please? It will be interesting to see if Zen4 can actually beat a Zen3 X3D CPU too!
Sure but likely over winter. No point in getting anything but an Apex for me and that's a little ways out.
the buttom line is Intel have now done what AMD used to do beating AMD at their own game.
better / same performance for less money.
the rest is just sore AMD fanboy RANT.
as for the saless figure..it's literally the first day of launch things will change.
I expect huge price cut by AMD.or the whole Zen 4 will be a flop.
In case you hadn't noticed AMD have moved on. Node and platform with all 'big cores' (real ones).the buttom line is Intel have now done what AMD used to do beating AMD at their own game.
better / same performance for less money.
the rest is just sore AMD fanboy RANT.
as for the saless figure..it's literally the first day of launch things will change.
I expect huge price cut by AMD.or the whole Zen 4 will be a flop.
In case you hadn't noticed AMD have moved on. Node and platform with all 'big cores' (real ones).
Sales? I'm sure AMD can adjust the price of Zen 4, but how are Intel fixed with their huge big / little dies?
Bottom line, Intel still playing catch up. Can't wait for xxxxlake whatever
Intel packaging technologies are quite sophisticated. Just look at Intel Lakefield which already had hybrid cores:Meteor lake will be interesting
Intel will have the existing complexity of P and E cores to manage and added to that will be that P and E cores are split into seperate chiplets across their version of infinity fabric which will add latency as it does for amd and create more complications for windows
move on to what? to greed and doing exactly what "evil" Intel used to do when they were leading?In case you hadn't noticed AMD have moved on. Node and platform with all 'big cores' (real ones).
Sales? I'm sure AMD can adjust the price of Zen 4, but how are Intel fixed with their huge big / little dies?
Bottom line, Intel still playing catch up. Can't wait for xxxxlake whatever
Sale of MobilEye, 20,000 job cuts, impending price increases, falling sales (all dept's). no serious DC chips, planned 3Nm at TSMC, Make do 'E' cores.move on to what? to greed and doing exactly what "evil" Intel used to do when they were leading?
I think that's why AMD somehow rushed to launch ZEN 4 before Intel because they knew they don't have anything impressive.
catch up? if anything all signs pointing to AMD needing to copy intel's idea of efficiency cores..it works.there's so many "full" cores they can put on these chips before thermals/power draw make it totally impossible .
it's no secret that Zen 4 were not selling and with Raptor Lake price/performance shown, ZEN 4 is lookimng even worse.
AMD will be forced to drop ZEN 4 prices prematurely, that's almost guaranteed
move on to what? to greed and doing exactly what "evil" Intel used to do when they were leading?
I think that's why AMD somehow rushed to launch ZEN 4 before Intel because they knew they don't have anything impressive.
catch up? if anything all signs pointing to AMD needing to copy intel's idea of efficiency cores..it works.there's so many "full" cores they can put on these chips before thermals/power draw make it totally impossible .
it's no secret that Zen 4 were not selling and with Raptor Lake price/performance shown, ZEN 4 is lookimng even worse.
AMD will be forced to drop ZEN 4 prices prematurely, that's almost guaranteed
The 13600K looks to be an impressive all-rounder, especially where productivity is concerned. Very punchy indeed for an i5.
Undervolt it, and I assume we have a better thermal/power draw experience with a vast majority of the performance intact.
Looks to be the star of the line-up so far.
I think that while none of that isn't true, people - especially in enthusiast forums - tend to pay far too little attention at the server market.move on to what? to greed and doing exactly what "evil" Intel used to do when they were leading?
I think that's why AMD somehow rushed to launch ZEN 4 before Intel because they knew they don't have anything impressive.
catch up? if anything all signs pointing to AMD needing to copy intel's idea of efficiency cores..it works.there's so many "full" cores they can put on these chips before thermals/power draw make it totally impossible .
it's no secret that Zen 4 were not selling and with Raptor Lake price/performance shown, ZEN 4 is lookimng even worse.
AMD will be forced to drop ZEN 4 prices prematurely, that's almost guaranteed