OcUK Nvidia RTX series review thread

Kirby Wurm · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:16

My biggest issue is that until we see games with RTX and DLSS the 2080's full potential is unknown and it's hard for consumers to decide whether to plump up the extra money for one over a 1080 Ti. If the latter could be had for £550 it would be a no-brainer.

Paladine · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:20

Aretak said:
lol

"My pure speculation is better than your pure speculation!"

Keep up the damage control though. You're not coming across as massively insecure about that pre-order at all.

If I was insecure about the pre-order I would cancel it - I spent 3k on 2 cards, rest assured if I wasn't happy with the benches I would cancel without skipping a beat. The only thing I am seeing here is a bunch of people butt hurt about the price not allowing them to have this great card.

banbom44 · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:21

Gregster said:
LMAO - I pre-ordered on the assumption of 30% performance gains over my 1080Ti (Now sitting with a 290X, as that was sold about an hour ago) and then the added benefit of Raytracing and DLSS but by all means, laugh away if it makes you happy

Fool and his money eh.

Paladine said:
30-50% increase over 1080Ti + probably double that in DLSS supported games (which will increase in number because Nvidia are providing the code to enable it free of charge) is not satisfying? Each to their own I guess, I am very happy with the results and looking forward to receiving both 2080Ti I ordered - going to be a huge step up from R9 390X and 980Ti they will replace. They weren't cheap sure - but neither was my iPhone XS, my iPad Pro, my MacBook Pro, my Apple Watch 4 etc etc etc.

Point is, value is subjective - I and many others are perfectly happy with what we have purchased.

your a sheep mate.

Skynet5 · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:21

Is someone creating a who is cancelling vote?

easyrider · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:21

Paladine said:
If I was insecure about the pre-order I would cancel it - I spent 3k on 2 cards, rest assured if I wasn't happy with the benches I would cancel without skipping a beat. The only thing I am seeing here is a bunch of people butt hurt about the price not allowing them to have this great card.

I can buy five if I want...but I have self respect...the industry is broken and the green team are totally responsible...the 2080ti is a lame duck...fact...

And until I see a loaf of bread with your username I don’t for one minute believe you either.

Skynet5 · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:23

Paladine said:
If I was insecure about the pre-order I would cancel it - I spent 3k on 2 cards, rest assured if I wasn't happy with the benches I would cancel without skipping a beat. The only thing I am seeing here is a bunch of people butt hurt about the price not allowing them to have this great card.

I really don't think that is it.

V F · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:25

banbom44 said:
Fool and his money eh.

your a sheep mate.

Regardless, where are the wise tech heads that said many years ago to never buy 1st generation? and so many others followed on with that.

melmac · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:27

Paladine said:
I never stated any developer made such a statement - so again, your claim is baseless - you are claiming I said something that I never said - it is based on nothing.

What I said was I expect we will see support for older games because Nvidia have stated (so based on a statement not based on nothing like your comments) they will WRITE THE CODE FOR THEM FOR FREE!!! it is a no-brainer for game companies to take them up on this as it costs them NOTHING and they get to provide a BETTER experience for the people who BUY their products.

But again, this opinion is based on something not nothing, yours is based on nothing. We already have about 29 titles with reported DLSS support incoming which again stands to prove your baseless arguments completely wrong.

What the heck? In the first post you quoted me on I said that only a few games would be using DLSS. 29 is only a few games out of the 1000's that are out there. You said that was an assumption. It wasn't an assumption, Nvidia have shown a list of games that are confirmed to use DLSS. That's the only facts we have.

You suggesting that lots of older games are going to use DLSS IS an assumption.

Nvidia offering to do it for free doesn't change anything. It still means extra work for developers. How many actually will put in that work for older games for a technology that can only be used by a tiny fraction of the gaming community in games that have already been paid for?

Again, I am been pretty realistic about what to expect going forward. If there are 5 older games not on that list using DLSS by Christmas I will eat my hat.

Paladine · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:27

V F said:
Regardless, where are the wise tech heads that said many years ago to never buy 1st generation? and so many others followed on with that.

If no-one buys 1st generation there would be no 2nd, everything would remain static and we would still be drawing pictures on the walls of caves whilst hunting big furry things with sticks and wondering what that glowy thing is in the sky for half of the day.

Boomstick777 · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:27

Worst GPU launch I've seen so far. I've seen quite a few too xD

Paladine · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:29

melmac said:
What the heck? In the first post you quoted me on I said that only a few games would be using DLSS. 29 is only a few games out of the 1000's that are out there. You said that was an assumption. It wasn't an assumption, Nvidia have shown a list of games that are confirmed to use DLSS.

A list which has grown by 50% in 3 weeks so following that trend it would be 45 titles in 3 weeks time, 67 titles in 6 weeks time over 100 titles by xmas and so on.

V F · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:31

Paladine said:
If no-one buys 1st generation there would be no 2nd, everything would remain static and we would still be drawing pictures on the walls of caves whilst hunting big furry things with sticks and wondering what that glowy thing is in the sky for half of the day.

hominid · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:31

Not only are these cards silly expensive they are only 20-30% faster, and when you turn on it's USP, ray tracing, it tanks the FPS...

NVidia just keeps on adding new tiers for graphics card pricing, the worst thing is people still buy them - it's really odd.

Paladine · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:31

melmac said:
What the heck? In the first post you quoted me on I said that only a few games would be using DLSS. 29 is only a few games out of the 1000's that are out there. You said that was an assumption. It wasn't an assumption, Nvidia have shown a list of games that are confirmed to use DLSS. That's the only facts we have.

You suggesting that lots of older games are going to use DLSS IS an assumption.

Nvidia offering to do it for free doesn't change anything. It still means extra work for developers. How many actually will put in that work for older games for a technology that can only be used by a tiny fraction of the gaming community in games that have already been paid for?

Again, I am been pretty realistic about what to expect going forward. If there are 5 older games not on that list using DLSS by Christmas I will eat my hat.

You really should do some more research - Nvidia have explicitly told developers - "Send us your game we will put the code in for you" the developer literally has to do nothing other than package up the patch and deploy it.

loftie · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:33

Paladine said:
But I don't care about what the gap is between the 980 Ti and the 1080 Ti...

You said that the average performance bump is 39% which you don't see as bad, but you can't see if that bump is good or bad without looking at the previous bump (though to be fair, I suspect Pascal had a larger than average increase though I've not looked at it) to actually compare that increase. That's why I compared the last 980Ti to the 1080Ti, to see the bump, even if you don't own a 980Ti or a 1080Ti or care how they performed. And the relative performance increase of the previous Ti release was 54 - 85% increase according to TPU.

Now if you're happy, and I suspect you are, with the performance of the 2080Ti that's great. But a 39% improvement over a previous Ti isn't great when you compare it to Pascals release. As an addition to this, TPU has the 2080Ti at 39% faster only at 4k, their range is 23-39% faster than the 1080Ti. And yes, you're right, DLSS will help but by how much we won't know until games use it and we have multiple benchmarks to look at.

Edit - jealous of your cards still

melmac · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:34

Paladine said:
A list which has grown by 50% in 3 weeks so following that trend it would be 45 titles in 3 weeks time, 67 titles in 6 weeks time over 100 titles by xmas and so on.

More assumptions?

hominid · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:36

Paladine said:
You really should do some more research - Nvidia have explicitly told developers - "Send us your game we will put the code in for you" the developer literally has to do nothing other than package up the patch and deploy it.

I used to be a computer programmer actually programming games up until 10 years ago and this would never happen, i.e. letting an outside entity modify your code with out you knowing WTF they are doing. Maybe things have changed in the decade I've been out of the industry so I would be amazed if this happened this way today.

melmac · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:37

Paladine said:
You really should do some more research - Nvidia have explicitly told developers - "Send us your game we will put the code in for you" the developer literally has to do nothing other than package up the patch and deploy it.

Yes, I know Nvidia said that, it's called Marketing.

Answer the question, How many developers are going to actually do it for the tiny fraction of the market that are going to have DLSS capable cards.

And also this

hominid said:
I used to be a computer programmer actually programming games up until 10 years ago and this would never happen, i.e. letting an outside entity modify your code with out you knowing WTF they are doing. Maybe things have changed in the decade I've been out of the industry so I would be amazed if this happened this way today.

easyrider · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:37

hominid said:
Not only are these cards silly expensive they are only 20-30% faster, and when you turn on it's USP, ray tracing, it tanks the FPS...

NVidia just keeps on adding new tiers for graphics card pricing, the worst thing is people still buy them - it's really odd.

Scenario: Sold a 1080ti 11gb and bought a 2080 8gb....I can less ram and sometimes slower performance in games but at 200 quid more expensive...

Yep

ODD

B1gbeard · 19 Sep 2018 at 17:38

Another thread with the same people saying the same things they have been saying for weeks in two other threads.

Some of you desperately need others to know what you think about a GPU release. And we have someone talking about self respect at not buying a GPU where people are repeating themselves ad nauseams so they are heard.