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OcUK RX7800XT and RX7700XT review thread

Linus found the 7700xt has some issue where it's performance mirrors a card running out of vram

Last of us part 1 was mentioned, the 7800xt runs fine but the 7700xt looks like it's running out of vram causing large stuttering which shouldn't happen as other 12gb cards are fine

They also say with both cards they got a lot of blu screen system crashing. So some driver work is needed

I'll wait for GN's assessment of LTT's video first :p ;)
 
For some people, the Starfield key, power consumption, 10% faster ray tracing, video editing codec support make this a great card vs the £650 in 2020 6800XT. Or vs £400 on a 2nd hand 3080 and its 750 watt PSU requirement.

For others the power saving might be completely irrelevant (winter gaming in electric heated house). They may already own a 750W PSU, a big case with lots of case fans.
And for me, AMD FSR is visual tinnitus compared to the excellent Nvidia DLS 2. I just can't get on with it.
Also even with a rumored 20GB PS5pro due next year, it might not change the ram requirements for this gen cards - 10GB 3080s still hanging in there - it just is.

For me, I rekon the 7800XT looks pretty decent value wise _if_ you need a Starfield key. But it will never be a 'great' card until AMD bring out a version of FSR that matches NVidia upscaling image quality.
 
Even though I have showed you how a 7700XT is cheaper with inflation and all that is going on than a 970. The 980? RRP was $500.

Given Gibbo used to say "We try and keep the £ prices the same as $ ones because we have to add 20% VAT" (yes, I have the memory of an albino elephant) let's assume you paid £500 for one. As quite a few people did.

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And there you have it. A 7800XT can be had for £479, on launch day.

Nvidia hiked up their % during mining yes. However, it was already at an all time high. They STILL have not reduced prices, due to Jen refusing to drop their profit margins after mining died. I would imagine that is because they simply don't care.

However. Like I said, let's just say the 7700XT is the 970. It has less VRAM than the 7800XT, so for me that is totally apples to apples with the 970 and 980, only the 7800XT is way faster than the 7700XT and thus 980 given that the 980 was barely any faster than the 970. You then need to factor in the 980Ti which was how much? about £600? and the Titan X which was £929 to the penny. Which is where, to me at least, the 7900XT and 7900XTX come in.

TBH? I don't care what Nvidia are doing and I don't even factor them into this because we are not talking about Nvidia. That is another thread, with at least £200 per card added on top. We are talking about AMD, and the 7700XT and 7800XT. It's not even like I am calling them amazing, or killer, or ETC. I am simply saying I think they are good cards. Not great ones, not brilliant, not cheap. However, I still think they are quite possibly the best thing to happen that you can actually buy on launch day since the 10 series.

Because let's face it, whether you like that or not? are facts.

Please, don't fall into the whining addict category. I know how easy that is. At some point you just need to accept what has happened over the past few years, how absolutely everything now costs way more, and just put up with it. It's life. Maybe I am bless by beginning my life in the early years of the 70s when we really had absolutely F all but a conker and a bit of string.

Isn't the 7800XT really the 7700XT with a bump in naming to another tier when the performance doesn't match?
 
Isn't the 7800XT really the 7700XT with a bump in naming to another tier when the performance doesn't match?

No not really. I mean, in a theoretical world? maybe. Problem is as I have said over and over, we aren't the ones naming their cards and no matter how much people try doing that it isn't going to change anything.

I watched Linus' review earlier. I don't really know why, but he was the only one to point out that the 7000 series have accelerators on them the 6000 cards do not.

I did touch on something like that before. IE, what if the 7000 series are way better at frame gen, and that is why they still have not launched it. Again, because there are still a lot of 6000 cards out there for sale. In fact, when GN went on about buying the 6800XT instead they could well have been playing straight into AMD's hands. Tell every one the 6800XT is slightly faster, then frame gen comes out when they are all sold and we find out there was a reason why you should have bought the new tech card.

It's a bit of a conspiracy theory, but honestly if you really do believe in frame gen and ETC? wait. Just, wait. I maintain my feelings about never buying a new gen as soon as it is released. Mostly for the reasons Linus found out, where there is a bug with the drivers so all reviews could be null and void any way.
 
Linus found the 7700xt has some issue where it's performance mirrors a card running out of vram

Last of us part 1 was mentioned, the 7800xt runs fine but the 7700xt looks like it's running out of vram causing large stuttering which shouldn't happen as other 12gb cards are fine

They also say with both cards they got a lot of blu screen system crashing. So some driver work is needed

After the pounding he's taken over the last month over he's content and handling of criticism they must have been praying that other reviews were getting the odd results.
 
Well I've pre-ordered the 7800XT Pure.... it was that or the Asus one in white which I could get elsewhere, but the Asus one costs £20-30 more and obviously, well, Asus :). It's replacing a 6800 that I got yesterday as a temporary measure - the performance of that is nice so as long as it's similar/better I'll be happy to have the white card finishing my build. Until two days ago I was on a 6600 (non-XT) and using a 1440p UW, so I already see a huge difference with the 6800 - so much so that, were it not for the aesthetics, I'd probably not have gone for it.
 
After the pounding he's taken over the last month over he's content and handling of criticism they must have been praying that other reviews were getting the odd results.

He will want revenge.

He missed a open goal the other day. GN showed charts with benchmarks, and listed both the 7900XT and XTX with 24gb VRAM. They didn't do an audible correction either. Oh look, hairy guy makes mistakes and doesn't realise too.

He's put a target on his back IMO.
 
No not really. I mean, in a theoretical world? maybe. Problem is as I have said over and over, we aren't the ones naming their cards and no matter how much people try doing that it isn't going to change anything.

I watched Linus' review earlier. I don't really know why, but he was the only one to point out that the 7000 series have accelerators on them the 6000 cards do not.

I did touch on something like that before. IE, what if the 7000 series are way better at frame gen, and that is why they still have not launched it. Again, because there are still a lot of 6000 cards out there for sale. In fact, when GN went on about buying the 6800XT instead they could well have been playing straight into AMD's hands. Tell every one the 6800XT is slightly faster, then frame gen comes out when they are all sold and we find out there was a reason why you should have bought the new tech card.

It's a bit of a conspiracy theory, but honestly if you really do believe in frame gen and ETC? wait. Just, wait. I maintain my feelings about never buying a new gen as soon as it is released. Mostly for the reasons Linus found out, where there is a bug with the drivers so all reviews could be null and void any way.

6800XT came from the same chip as the 6950

7800XT doesn't come from the same chip as the 7900XTX
 
I'll wait for GN's assessment of LTT's video first :p ;)
did they use the correct driver? one of them, it may have been gn said the existing whql driver doesn't work well with these, you have to use the drive AMD provided and then its fine.
No one else reported problems, honestly this point i think Linus needs to be cancelled .
 
Steve says:

"There is no world where the 7700xt's pricing makes sense, a pointless product. It doesn't matter how it compares to any Nvidia products when it makes no sense compared to AMD products. AMD has left us scratching our heads, why did they even bother with this GPU? Very embarrassing for the Radeon division"


 
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Steve says:

"There is no world where the 7700xt's pricing makes sense, a pointless product. It doesn't matter how it compares to any Nvidia products when it makes no sense compared to AMD products. AMD has left us scratching our heads, why did they even bother with this GPU? Very embarrassing for the Radeon division"



This is so true, I don’t understand why anyone would go for the 7700 over the 7800 at those prices
 
Got my Sapphire 7800XT Nitro+ this morning. Replacing a Sapphire 5700XT. After uninstalling the drivers, swapping the cards, new driver install wasn't seeing the GPU. Even though my monitor was working fine on it.
AMD Cleanup Utility sorted it though.
Starfield looks way better even before I upped the resolution scaling. 1440p, 100% scaling, most stuff at medium well over 100fps.

Card is HUGE!! Very nice all metal casing around it too.
 
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Got my Sapphire 7800XT Nitro+ this morning. Replacing a Sapphire 5700XT. After uninstalling the drivers, swapping the cards, new driver install wasn't seeing the GPU. Even though my monitor was working fine on it.
AMD Cleanup Utility sorted it though.
Starfield looks way better even before I upped the resolution scaling. 1440p, 100% scaling, most stuff at medium well over 100fps.

Card is HUGE!! Very nice all metal casing around it too.

That's pretty good because SF runs like a dog for a game that doesn't even look that good.
 
6800XT came from the same chip as the 6950

7800XT doesn't come from the same chip as the 7900XTX

I know.

This is only a 7800XT by naming. TBH? I don't care about the naming. It's not a human lol. I care about price and performance, and it nails in both of those.

I think AMD are going to move away from big dies. Looks like they have already started this round. There's no point. Like they said, they have to charge for it, and no one wants to spend £1700 on a GPU. I know some do, but they don't want to.

Problem is even if they had called it a 7800 people would have still complained. They had a strategy set out with die sizes, and they have a naming strategy also.

People will just find anything they possibly can to complain about is the truth of it eh?
 
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