spend 3 consoles worth of cash on a 4090 or just be a console pleb?
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OcUK RX7900 series review thread
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Caporegime
I've recently just played Horizon Forbidden West on the PS5 using an 86" 4K projector
Think I'd be happy being a console pleb for the generation as on trends, it doesn't seem like it's going to improve much for PC gamers.
yep absolutely dumb it costs that much for a single part of a pc
Your prediction is off. We are already at that point. The 4080 16gb is a mid range gpu based on silicon size
Yep, and the earlier suggestion of a wall of shame of buyers of these overpriced cards... Well that list is probably nearly a decade too late now. But the "because I'm worth it" crowd has priced GPUs out of the hands of most. I'm sure I am worth it too, and I could afford it, but I'm not a mug!
i wish gpu sellers would start shipping a free mug with all purchases and see how long till people catch on
There's another meme which has almost gained popular usage for price increases, so:i wish gpu sellers would start shipping a free mug with all purchases and see how long till people catch on
A mug of lube!
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Soldato
I didn't see this one on the first page:
babeltechreviews.com
It looks like the XTX would not have worked for my goal of night racing in my VR sims without down sampling resolution.
Still, I'm more disappointed in AMD's marketing this time around than the XTX itself. The XTX is a good generational uplift. It didn't need to be oversold in the presentation.
The Hellhound RX 7900 XTX Takes on the RTX 4080 with 50 VR & PC Games
The Hellhound RX 7900 XTX takes on the RTX 4080 in more than 50 VR & PC Games , GPGPU & SPEC Workstation Benchmarks The ... Read more
babeltechreviews.com
It looks like the XTX would not have worked for my goal of night racing in my VR sims without down sampling resolution.
Still, I'm more disappointed in AMD's marketing this time around than the XTX itself. The XTX is a good generational uplift. It didn't need to be oversold in the presentation.
The Asus card is pumping the power, something the reference cooler could not handle at all. 11% extra performance over the reference card with a manual OC, pulls 450w average with spikes up to 525w.
Overall It's not too bad, 11% more performance for 30% more power draw. At least it runs at the clock speed it's meant to. The reference card can drop as low as 1800mhz under heavy load, clearly the stock 355w power limit is way too low for this gpu, those cores are hungry for juice
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The ref cards only have two 8-pin connectors too, so they would be limited at 375 Watts, their claimed limit of 335 is within that. To get the power needed for that boost requires a three-connector card.
edit - and at 525W is maxing out that three connector card. Are we going to see some sort of 4-connector monster card from one of the partners? Or is that going to be the 7950 xtxxyz?
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Wonder if reviewer has tried to figure out how much extra power going chiplet has cost AMD here?
Zen2/3/4 chiplet vs monolith has always used a fair bit extra.
AMD's marketing had built up a fair but of credibility with Zen releases but now they've squandered their credibility with their claims for Navi31 vs reality. These things take years to build up, but can be destroyed so quickly
Zen2/3/4 chiplet vs monolith has always used a fair bit extra.
AMD's marketing had built up a fair but of credibility with Zen releases but now they've squandered their credibility with their claims for Navi31 vs reality. These things take years to build up, but can be destroyed so quickly
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So many complaints about pricing. Are people physically unable to have great fun on cheap hardware these days? I game on a cheap RX 6600, I have amazing fun and I get so immersed in the gameplay. It always amazes me when people say pc gaming is dead because the 3090 Ti is too expensive or the 4080 is too expensive etc.
Caporegime
Because the cheap hardware tier isn't cheap anymore either.
That RX6600 used to get your something much better relatively.
A continuation of price increases means accepting less and less for your money.
And 4K displays are cheap, I wouldn't be using an RX6600 to power 4K
Yes, RX6600 price would get you 2nd or 3d a few years ago, now the price has moved up two to three tiers instead.
Hm, not sure about 4K displays.
As my machines are dual purpose (and my eyes are far from 20/20), a 4K display wouldn't be that useful for productive work for me.
For gaming? Maybe, but with all the fake upscaling stuff around... Well I don't see the point in buying a 4K game with upscaled 1440P no matter how great people think upscalers are.
4k and RT is the only reason for any struggling. People have painted themselves into a corner with their screen choices and obsession with ray tracing in a very few games. They are obliged to pay the stupid money to make the bad performance on their 4k screen slightly better and/or still have to use upscaling tech because their £1k+ cards are still incapable of running the game at native res.
Quite odd to throw that much money to get a compromised image on the screen.
Meanwhile the vast majority are on 1080 and 1440p and playing raster only, that doesn't need a £1k card, a £1k entire computer should be fine, and is unlikely to require dlss or fsr just to run at decent framerates.
Soldato
That's because you are a gaming enthusiast. This place is full of hardware enthusiasts who pretend they somehow enjoy games more than others.
The last games I enjoyed the most are
The Last of Us
The Last of Us II
Ghost of Tsushima
The Ascent
Three of them are on PS5 and the one on PC has RT but it was turned off due to performance tanking. Not once did I miss a ray that was traced.
If an enthusiast (anyone spending over £1000 on a GPU is an enthusiast) is spending £1000-1100 on a GPU they are going to want something approaching the best if not the best. It's unlikely they will worry about spending £200 more for a better card. If I was spending that much I'd stump up the extra £400 or so for the 4090 FE to get a generation ahead of the 4080/7900XTX. None of the prices over £1000 are 'more reasonable'.
It really has become a mugs game, in my case it wasn't "because I'm worth it" last time I purchased 3090s but I had to update my system at the time which had a 980ti and 5930k and we were heading into lockdowns and my work started making people even before lockdown work from home and I needed a system update so I could work from home, work promised myself and others they would provide hardware for us to work from home but of course they never did and we basically had no choice but to pay out of our own pockets to just have a job to do.
Honestly I was sick to my stomach at the cost of the system I needed to build to do my work from home, the rig is in the signature below and if you read it carefully you will see it's 2 x 3090s in NVLINK/SLI and that's what my work needed
. I bought them so I could work at a time the gpus were stupidly priced and nowhere near msrp prices as we all know. Now my work has us again on a 3 day week and even then most of the work is being done on my personal rig not their systems because they try keep us at home so not to pay electricity and heating at the office, this is how grim things have become since late 2019 and during the years of COVID and BREXIT, Brexit has destroyed our work and we have lost so many clients because of it.I would never have purchased a 3090 for gaming and was at the time really happy with the 980ti with my then 3440x1440p UW monitor for gaming and not once I felt I needed more for gaming at that resolution, but the 980ti had 6GB and my work used over 36-45GB at the time and now I have to work hard to keep projects in the 48GB VRAM limits I have with the 2 x 3090s in NVLINK and honestly I was fuming when the 4090s came out with 24GB VRAM again and no NVLINK, they turned a professional use card into a gaming card only and the cheek of Nvidia charging even more for it than a 3090.. I thought they went insane doing that and the 4090 should have been MAX £999 for a gaming top end card not £1700.. It can't be used for pro work or make money in that way, so it was a pure gaming card that is only useful for any pro work if it fits into the 24GB and you don't need NVLINK.
It really has become a scam now and they really are taking us all for mugs now. Even AMD is at it too, sorry the 7900xtx and xt is not worth the money too for a gaming card and the xtx should be no more than £650-£700 and the xt £500-£550, basically the price of a console because its a gaming card too and gaming is not pro use and soon we will see Sony and MS pricing their next generation consoles at £1000+ at this rate too, the game prices are shocking enough now as it is £60-70 for standard version and over £100 for the "deluxe" or whatever they call it for a single game is insane too.
The whole industry is taking all its customers for a ride and really think we have all become mugs.
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I woudn't... 7900xtx was near to spanking the 4090 on somethings and has displayport2.1 making it already more of a future proof purchase for future display...... 4090 is just an overpriced brick for enthusiasts with more money to throw out then sense.... maybe next team green bank will have something out that is actually worth over £1500
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